MEN'S SENIOR FOOTBALL TEAM THE FUTURE AND BEYOND

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5. [00:00:08] Speaker B: But it's now time to turn our attention very quickly for a little interview that we have this morning with Sean Fuentes. Sean is. Let me tell you who Sean is. The topic is the men's senior football team, their new success. Easy. Senior men's team press officer, head of communications and marketing at the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation. Football association of Football Federation. I can't remember which one it is. You guys can tell me. Good morning to you, Sean Fuentes and of course, Derek King. Good morning, guys. Good morning and welcome to the Rumble. [00:00:45] Speaker C: Good morning and thanks for having us. Pleasure to be on your program. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Beautiful. Beautiful. We're talking men's football team, the ttfe. I would allow you guys to lead with our conversations this morning because first of all, tell me where we at with men's football, the senior team in Trinidad and Tobago, what is happening? [00:01:14] Speaker C: Well, before I allow our head coach, our newly appointed head coach. [00:01:18] Speaker B: Congratulations to you, Derek King. [00:01:21] Speaker D: Thank you. Thank you. It's a pleasure. [00:01:23] Speaker C: I would probably just bring a little bit up to scratch in terms of where we are right now. So, as you would have noted in previous months, we did not qualify for the 2026 World cup despite the fact that we believe that we gave it a really good shot. The team really got to a point where we had the fans believing again, we were bringing the fans back to the stadium and, you know, things were looking good. And obviously now with the replacement of York as the head coach, with Derek coming in, we've had about. We've had three matches so far this year. We had the friendly away to Bolivia and then we had the FIFA series, which was pretty good as well. Two games against Venezuela and Gabon. And now we are preparing for two international friendlies coming up. One against South Korea that will be played in Utah on March on May 30th. Sorry. And then we travel to Russia to play Russia there on June 9. And these are all part of our overall preparations for the CONCACAF Nations League. That's. That kicks off in September. So we're about basically stabilizing the team with Derek coming in as the head coach and really getting things rolling again following the end of the World cup qualifying campaign for us last November. [00:02:37] Speaker B: All right, thank you very much for that information. But as you mentioned, the concacaf, with the games coming up, how are we faring so far? What is our positioning? How are we looking where that is concerned, Sean? [00:02:46] Speaker E: Well, Derek. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Derek can give, but Derek. Okay, answer that question. Derek? [00:02:53] Speaker D: Well, at this moment, you know, we in the rebuilding and development phase where we more or less focusing on the consistency and the discipline and really trying to create a strong identity in our football. So our main goal at this moment, you know, is to open the pool of players, young players and you know, get that pool ready for our game, our competitive game in September. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Let's look a bit about the transition from Dwight York as head coach to you, Mr. Derek King. What was the morale of players coming out of the, you know, their failure to qualify for the upcoming World cup and transitioning from a world renowned individual in the game. Dwight York coming over to you, Derek King. What was the morale of the team? How was that transition? Was it one that was smooth as the players, did their morale drop? How are you able to sustain continuity following that situation with the loss of the qualifying? [00:04:00] Speaker D: To know, well, I know we didn't qualify for the World cup, you know, it's disappointed the players and the staff. I think, you know, this transition now this is my first official reign leading up to these two friendly games. I think, you know, now the players, you know, they are excited to rebuild. We have some older players who have moved on, but I think the younger ones and the players coming in, you know, this is the time now that we have to mend whatever happened in the past and most on from there. [00:04:36] Speaker B: For one thing, with me and others looking in, I've often raised concerns about persons that did well in international football. But before I get to that point, what is the TTFA doing to attract young players or as we would say have a B team on standby? You have the senior team or the A team and then you have a B team because is this a full time job for players? I am of the impression that these players still had to supplement their income. They started to look for work, they had to come to training. How are these players able to maintain their families, their livelihoods, their upkeep if there's not a salary assigned to them to make football their job that they come and bonuses will be attached to successes and these kind of things. What is the attraction to key players? You just mentioned that some players moved on. [00:05:28] Speaker D: Yeah, I think, you know, we in talks right now with the, with the executive, the president and his executive team that after these two friendly international, that we will have a local base team in training full time where you know, we give the younger players and the local players the opportunity that I wouldn't say a B team but a local based team to give them the experience to that we could play a few games that they could, you know, really add to the pool that we already have. So I think, you know, what is important is that we must have a local base team here. Keep them, keep them playing and give them that exposure at the highest level. [00:06:16] Speaker B: This is the concern I have. Hello, Good morning. Good morning. All right, call me back if you want. Okay, here it is. Hello, good morning. [00:06:24] Speaker F: Good morning once more, Davy. And to your guest, Jason. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Jason. Not Jason. Sean Fuentes and Derek King. [00:06:30] Speaker F: Jason, I want to make a statement and I'm hoping to get a good response. My suggestion is that it is, is not like cricket where one player could excel and win a match. Football is a lot different, is a team, is fully a team game. And over the years we, we have had one person coming from Portugal, one person coming from England, one person coming from Manchester United, whatever it is, and we build a team a few days before March, I want to believe we should go with a local team. And if any of the professionals who play in the outer world want to play for us, they must stay with us for a considerable period of time and keep training for considerable period of time before we go into a competitive match. And that is one of the reasons, because different people have different styles of play. And when we get together a few days before match, that is one of the reasons that we have not excelled in football as we are supposed to. And I feel if we build a local team and whom the professionals come and spend time with us and so on when they are matches, I think that Trinidad and Tobago football will improve. I thank you. [00:07:42] Speaker C: Enjoy. [00:07:42] Speaker B: Now that was my question to you, Derek, before I get back to Sean. I have seen it time and time again where our players would be outside and before a game a couple, well, I wouldn't say a couple days, but weeks leading up, you find the players will come down. In my opinion, this is Davey Murray looking in. I mean, could it be that the players are starstruck? You know, Dwight Joke is playing, Russell is on the field with us. You know, I see these men playing for big teams. There was a time Dwight York name used to ring out as one of the most top five in the world with people like Zidane and all these names. But the thing I'm making is what Karanee Central just said is the coordination between the local players and the players that are exposed to international football. When Andy Cole and Dwight York, for example, would run 1, 2, they almost yield success almost every time. So then you're expecting that kind of coordination efforts. When York is playing on the, on the field with his, his Trin Begonians. But then you don't see it happening because he's bringing a style that they are unfamiliar with one or I don't know, I, I'm not a footballer. How could Trinidad and Tobago mitigate those challenges where our players, as you said, they leave us and then they excel out there. And when time for serious games, competition, we bring them back weeks before, a couple weeks before we try to work it out. How are we going to mitigate those challenges? [00:09:10] Speaker D: Well, I think, you know, in the days of Dwight and Russell and St. John and Kenwin Jones, they were playing at top level football, you know, they were playing premiership. So it was easier for them to come in and you know, mesh with the team. Right now we have players, you know, playing in decent league but not the top leagues that in the world. Right. So I think, you know, as the caller said before, you know, is important that we have our local base team, you know, that we could bring in players and really add to what we need at that point in time. But the issue with that is that, you know, we need to get the local players, that exposure up to speed with the game because I think, you know, the football now evolve, right? The pace of the game is completely different. So it's something that we in discussion with, you know, the technical team that we can see what is the best mix that we could put together going forward to develop Trindal and Tobago football. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Sean, talk to me about just before I get to that. I do have a commitment that I must attend to at this time. It is now 7:30, so if you guys would just permit me, let me address this issue as quickly as I can and then we would continue our discussions here on Freedom 106.5 FM. Once again, you're locked into the morning rumble. We're chatting with Sean Fuentes and Derek King on Trinidad and Tobago's men's football. But just before we do that, it is time to turn our attention to your daily tech tip coming from 800 tech. 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Gentlemen, please don't think me rude, but I really and truly was saddened by the departure of Dwight York because I believe that we ought to take into consideration that you cannot build a team in a minute. Now what I would really and truly like to see, which I am not seeing, maybe the existence, I don't know, the existence of a robust national League. I would like to see business houses sponsor the youths in their area and develop robust national leagues which compare compete against each other. And I'm sure you're going to find the talent that you need that can make it on the national stage coming out of that. But I don't see it maybe exist and I don't see it. But where Dwight Hock is concerned, I felt, well, I was on the outside looking in, but I felt he was doing a good job and I felt that if we change a coach every minute, every minute we're going to have unsettled players. They're not going to show us exactly what's going on. I listen to your comments. [00:14:28] Speaker H: Thank you. [00:14:29] Speaker B: All right, Sean or Derek, which One would like to respond. [00:14:34] Speaker C: All right, yeah, well, of course, I think the, the caller there has a couple valid points. As I mentioned earlier, you know, this is football and we, you know, decisions are made, changes are made and of course a lot of people would have liked for us to, to have that sort of continuation coming out of the World cup campaign, but I mean, the game is about results and, and Dwight was given a mandate to qualify the team for the World Cup. That did not happen and sadly he had to make his departure. But in saying that, I think the intention of the FA and Derek and his staff is to ensure that we have a level of continuity. So we're going to build on what has been laid there in terms of what Dwight and his staff would have done with the team in the past year or so. And obviously now moving forward, we have to look ahead, as Derek spoke earlier about, in terms of giving, getting a team ready for what is ahead. The CONCACAF Nations League and Of course the 2030 World cup campaign, which before you know, it is going to be upon us because those games could pop up as early as mid-2028, which gives you really just about a couple of years to get your house in order for that campaign. Going back to what he mentioned, in terms of a national league, of course there is the ttpfl, there's a tier one and Tier two. Our season has come to an end at the tier one level. So you, you find that the majority of the professional clubs and the local players who are based as professionals, they're on a bit of a break now, which provides a bit of a challenge for Derek also, because it goes back to what the previous caller was talking about in terms of wanting to have a squad that is based at home so you have more access to these players. So of course we would love if you could have a national team in preparation every week for the year preparing for an international game. But we have to be honest about it and we have to be very realistic. This is no longer international football. So you look at every international team that is playing now at FIFA level, within the FIFA world rankings, you seldom find national teams that have majority of their players that are based at home. For instance, the us, their Major League Soccer, their league is a, a greater standard than our ttpfl and you may probably find a handful of players that are going to be there in their World cup squad. So this is what international footballers has come to now. I mean, in the days of the strike squad, we know the story of Gali having that team that was Home, homegrown and having access to them week in, week out. Unfortunately, what we are faced with now is that obviously your best players are always going to be the ones that have been to be based outside. They're going to be playing locally for to some extent, but once they get to that standard, that is of international level, they're going to be snapped up by clubs in the overseas leagues. And of course that is the ambition of the player as well. And even the clubs, the clubs, aside from winning league titles, they want to, they want to develop players that will be able to be exported into the international league because it benefits the club as well. So what does that mean is that people like Derek now, they have that extra headache in terms of finding that cohesion and being able to mesh the best local talent with your best available players. And the fact is our best available players, whether it be from Trinidad and Tobago or Jamaica, are always going to be the players that are based outside. And the way international football goes right now, you have a five day window in which sometimes seven to eight days to get your players together before you play that international game. In some instances, for instance, like for a CONCACAF World cup, you may get the players maybe two weeks before, before the tournament starts. But that's just the reality of, you know, what we're facing right, right now. [00:18:18] Speaker B: You know, Derek was mentioning that he didn't, you know, well, one, okay, okay. This texter was saying, do you think there's room for Trinidad football in Trinidad football? For Venezuelan players? Their style of football is very fast, skillful, aggressive and intense. Even in the small goals and local grounds, you can see the difference in the approach compared to ours. Could they help raise the standard of local football? It's a good thought, but I don't know how lucrative that could work. But to get to my point, I was making, okay, Derek didn't like the A team and the B team, but tier one and tier two, I could have gone, I could use that analogy and that's that statement as well. In terms of attracting players, young players from the primary schools, secondary schools level, you know, you're just pulling out the best. Sometimes you see sports played among companies, TSTT at one time at a football club, at a football team that would play against Wasa's team, you know, and you go out there and you scout and you get these players. My concern is when we get these players, could we find a way to have them attracted to the TTFA and not have to worry about their day to day livings? Is it a situation now where we can make this lucrative and attractive to persons, to sportsmen and women that want to be a part of the football, TNT football. I mean the goal is to get outside, but in the interim we could build that core team, have them here with us contracted for the next five years at home before you can be taken aboard. I don't know, I'm just throwing it out there guys. [00:20:08] Speaker C: I think realistically, again, I think any country would love the opportunity to have to what that plan that you just put out there. Ideally would work, ideally, but it just doesn't work that way, sadly. So I mean for one, you're talking about massive financing. To be able to have a project like this, it means having corporate sector and government on board in a major way. And then again also it comes as almost as though the national team will now become a club team because the best players that are going to be based in Trinidad and Tobago, instead of them playing with a Jablote or AC Port of Spain or they will now be playing with Sherlock and Tobago. Now what does that mean in terms of, in terms of them being in a competitive environment? Who will they be playing against? Will they have to in the pro league and play the best local clubs or do we then have to find international games for them to play every month? To host an international game, to play an international game every month. You're looking at anything in the vicinity of 500,000 TT million dollars to host a game in terms of being able to bring a team here and also being able to prepare your team and have them house, have them fed, have them trained in order to undergo such a project. But again it sounds like the perfect plan. [00:21:23] Speaker D: That's the other unshown. Right. I think what we need to do is the younger players like our youth players is get them involved playing a little more. You know, we have like coaching school only train rarely once for the week. So you know, when you look at the likes of the US and some of the footballing nation, Brazil, Italy, you know you get these youths at least training at least four times for the week. So it's something that we had a look at as well. [00:21:57] Speaker C: And just to add to that, for the, for the listeners who may be asking the question why, why doesn't the TTFA have a so called academy or something for players that are of the lower age groups? We do have what is referred to as the TTFA High performance program both for boys and girls. So you find that you would have pockets in different zones where our TTFA scouts and coaches, they Go around looking for the best talent available. And we then have a core for about 40 to 45 players that will train on a weekly basis at the various TTFA centers, whether it be at Atebolan Stadium or whatever venue that we see fit. So that is an ongoing program that we have. But of course, that is at the under 13 level, under 15 into under 17. [00:22:41] Speaker B: You know, I am gentlemen, I'm concerned. I mean, we would have seen World cup glory and tasted what the world stage feels like. I think that was back in 2006, [00:22:54] Speaker H: correct? [00:22:54] Speaker B: Yes, Germany. And ever since then, we have been chasing that glory and unsuccessfully. And to me, I mean, my spirits was really high. And I'm a pessimist when it comes to sports in Trinidad and Tobago, because I feel disenchanted that even the corporate and governmental sectors don't take it serious. To me, it appears as though recognition only comes when these athletes work hard on their own, beat it. However they can make it on the international scene, the world recognized, and then all of a sudden we playing catch up, they left Trinidad and Tobago. Not even a proper farewell or send off that we're watching you, but when you score out there and you're coming back home, we have everything we want to give you. The airport, traffic on the road problems, I do like that in my mind, if you're sending more of, send more off. So I don't know if we reach a stage in Trinidad and Tobago, if we can seriously look at a model where you as the marketing personnel for the ttfa can look at a mark, at a model that would not just seek to attract local corporate Trinidad or corporate Trinidad and Tobago. But what about investors internationally, regionally, companies outside that they have conglomerates in different parts of the world. I'm not talking about a company that back in a football team in the US or in Jamaica or somewhere out there. I'm talking about companies that can lend some serious support and invest. Because when I did my research, companies back football teams and sometimes they're not even a part of companies, they have a branch in the country, but they back the team. Can the TTFA look at that avenue as well? And how sustainable would that be? [00:24:42] Speaker C: Yeah, it's definitely an option and it's something that we have been exploring. You know, unfortunately, we have not been able to get the team to a level, as you recall earlier in terms of 2006, and being that marketable, being that attractive. But there are companies who have expressed interest. And one of the things that I want to say about Trinidad and Tobago the brand recognized. Hence the reason we would have been invited to the Unity cup that was played in London last year. We have an international kit sponsor that is based out of the U.S. it's an Italian company. And that's the reason as well that we have teams like Russia and South Korea looking to us to be able to provide valuable match practice for them. In saying that, I also want to mention that back in 2006, we would have had international corporate partners such as ebay and companies like this that really wanted to get on board and came on board in a big way. And I think it's about time that we revisit some of these opportunities. But again, results are what speaks at this level. And people want to know that you have a brand that is internationally recognized, that your image is respectable. And I think hopefully with Derek on board now and with the new vision and the new drive that the TTFA has been forced to now pick up following the end of this World cup campaign, that we can get back to those heights and those levels. And of course, we also have major international brands that have a strong presence in Trinidad and Tobago. We have continued to have conversations with them, but like everybody else, they are sitting on the fence waiting to see what's going to happen next. [00:26:19] Speaker B: Derek, unfortunately, you have some big shoes to fill. You have to come out there. You don't have time to honeymoon with each other team. You had the gates open, you had to blaze the trail and get out there. How important? [00:26:32] Speaker D: I think, I think go ahead. Yeah, no, I say, you know, at this moment, you know, the mission is clear, you know, to develop the young players properly, to raise the standard of the local base players, right, to build a strong men men to build their strong mental and, you know, compete fearless at international. You know, we connect to the fans and, and get the country behind the team as well, you know. So I think, you know, it's important that we have is a collective effort. We need everybody involved. We need the players, the coaches, the club, the administrators, the sponsors, media, supporters, you know, and I think, you know, Trinidad and Tobago football can become a force back in the Caribbean and the concrete once again. [00:27:22] Speaker B: You, me and everyone listening to this program feels the same way. I am very, I'm beginning to become very optimistic about it. I feel good coming down to the conclusion of this interview this morning. I want to ask you this. How important? Well, before I get to my question, texter from Diego Martin, a silent listener says, Mr. Murray, do you. Do we prepare our football team using international methodology, structure, example, a Specific number of build up games with foreign teams, a decent level of incentives on and off the field for players and those kind of things. I know it's costly, but can they summarize how this is done? And that leads in my question in terms of how important is friendly international friendlies, I often wonder is a friendly. We ain't getting nothing out of it. But then Sean now mentioned Russia is looking to us as a team, a formidable team that we can spar with, practice with, you know, and that to me piqued my interest. If you want to spar with me and you are the might of Russia, that mean you expect my team to bring my A game to give your team a run for their money. So just to reiterate the point, how important is these international friendlies that we have from time to time some people see it as a waste of money. We just traveling to play a friendly but or friendly. Coming here. How important are these games? [00:28:57] Speaker D: I think these games is very important. You know, you had to aspire to compete at the highest level. You know, it's important that these matches help build the character, the belief and the international experience within the team as well. So you know, it augurs well. It also help you with your ranking depending on the teams that you play, depending on where they rank in FIFA as well. So it's always important to give those players, our players, the experience to play at the highest level. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Understood. My, my final thought this morning, gentlemen. The size of our football field. When you look at the Premier League and you look at those, I mean recently I think it was Arsenal. You're watching, you're following international and, and league football and you watch the size of the field and then you come down to the hazy Crawford city, maybe the size of our field, isn't that when these boys are custom training on this field, they're running the length and breadth of this field and they get into those bigger fields, they can become winded. I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud. You all can share your thoughts as to. [00:30:05] Speaker C: I think, I think you're being a bit caught up with what you see on television and the visual that you're giving on the television screens because majority of international pitchers are around the same size. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Okay, I can do that. Well, I was concerned actually. [00:30:19] Speaker C: We do have some teams that actually when they come to the hazy Crawford Stadium, they're quite, quite by the size of the outfield in terms of the width etc, so be right up there with the rest of it. [00:30:29] Speaker B: I, I thank you for that, because that was a missing. That was something in my mind that never left. You know, I often wonder that. Hello. Good morning. [00:30:37] Speaker H: Morning to you, Davy. Morning to your guest. [00:30:39] Speaker E: Davy. [00:30:40] Speaker H: With all the bravado I'm hearing, and I'd like to hear, I still believe that the embryo of the football in Trinidad is being lost. And you cannot, for me, you can't keep changing coaches and reaching the same level in the football. If those people like Dwight York and other players who made that sort of prowess in the game started at the embryo stage, the school football Signal Hill Latopi was San Fernando Tech. You had that stage and that transcends into the club and into eventually the national team. Tell me what is the plan to do this? Instead of starting big and not trying to get the small part of the whole process started, Tell me what is the plan for the umbrella stage of football in Trinidad to return to get the end result, which is a better team transcending into the national space. [00:31:32] Speaker B: All right, thank you, Derek. I think that was a Derek question. [00:31:40] Speaker C: Just before we get to Derek, I want to interject here a little bit and you know, the, the caller, like anybody else, has some valid concerns, but he makes it sound as though, you know, even the current day players that we have have all of a sudden just popped up and got into a national team, as though there was no development, as though they were not on previous national youth teams, as though they did not play college football. And of course we, you know, I hear these stories all the time and I remember that era that was one of the golden generation, the golden olden areas of Trinidad football when, when Latters played for Tech, Marvin Foster York, gerald Nixon at St. Augustine. But you look at our current national team and you know, there were some standout players as well in this campaign who have continued to do very well. You're talking about Levi Garcia, who is a graduate of Shiva Boys and would have played into intercult football for Shiva Boys. You would have played for national under 17 team. You talk about Tyrese Spicer, who's now one of our starters, standout in the mls. He would have graduated out of the secondary school football league as well before he went on to college in the States. There are several other players. Kevin Molino, who retired just about a few months ago, came through Mukarapu in the intercult. So these are all players who were born and developed here in Trinidad and Tobago and did get to a pretty decent level. So sometimes when the callers talk about these sort of things, they make it look as though there's absolutely no development taking place. And we understand the frustration and the desire for them to see more because they're probably thinking that we probably should be seeing this as a result of consistent performances and qualification for World Cups, but not. Because we've not qualified for a World cup does not mean that we have not had players and we don't have coaches in this country working with clubs who are consistently trying to develop players to get to international level. [00:33:32] Speaker B: I'm very happy that you mentioned that because I mean I. I find myself. And I was going to talk about it, but I don't know if I'll mention it any. I probably would. Even. Even with memorabilias in our football, in our national stadiums across Trinidad and Tobago, we supposed to have outlets where you're selling T shirts, past uniforms. I want to see the uniform of the strike squad on display where you could pick up our old strike squad jersey and buy it and you know, that will help bring in a revenue for the TTFA that could assist with so many different things. Because I know travel and hotel stay, as you mentioned, is a quite an expensive undertaking. And I'm very happy that he was able to clear it up with him that the embryo stages of football is not left out. You ain't just walking out on the road and say, hey, you like football? Come now, miss, where you could do an IIT on the team. You all would have been doing the groundwork. Derek, you wish to respond quickly? [00:34:20] Speaker D: Yeah, well, what our technical director, our executive now, you know, they now started a program that things that they need to better for our youth football. So is for instance the grassroots program starting from primary school is something that they revisit at this time. I think now you're seeing more coaches qualified try to educate the youth coaches across the country. We have a few programs that started consistent, consistent youth leagues with proper organization and. And proper leagues. [00:35:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:35:09] Speaker D: For the youths. Right. So yeah, so what they're doing now at least, you know, is trying to improve the football facilities and the safe training environment, especially for the young players, which is very important. And what they are working as well, you know, is a stronger partnership within the schools, the club and the communities. Make sure each coaching school is registered with the TTFA and things like that. Because we have plenty coaching schools out there. So we need to, you know, everybody work together and build a partnership as well, you know. So I think, you know, the focus is really is on the youths and going forward from here now we will see plenty things developing concerning the youth [00:35:56] Speaker B: football I thank you very much for that, Sean. Do we still have club football in Trinidad and Tobago? What is this called it Sour Jabba, this one. Those teams still exist? [00:36:05] Speaker C: Yeah, we do. Of course, we have the. That's what we refer to as the ttpfl. It's the tier one that came to an end a few weeks ago. And then we have the tier two, which is like a second division that is currently in its final phases as well. And we also have a national youth league that is held, that is run by the TTFA and it's being played in the various zones as we speak. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Gentlemen, thank you very much for braving and coming onto the morning Rumble this morning. I say that because I know persons are very, you know, disenchanted sometimes with Trinidad and Tobago football and they can be. They can be a bit harsh. I thank you guys for coming in. Sean, it was a pleasure chatting with you. And Derek, congratulations on your appointment and ascension to the head coach position. I do wish you guys the best. The game coming up in Utah is against South Korea on the 30th of this month. We're looking forward to favorable results. Win, lose or draw. I behind you guys. All the best and safe travels. Have a good one. Yeah, man. [00:37:04] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5.