JUSTICE FOR JOSHUA AND KAIA

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability, the all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5 and on the line with me is the friend of both Kaya, I think that's the correct pronunciation and Joshua Samarou. Alyssa, thank you so much for joining us. Good morning to you. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Good morning. Thank you for having me. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Alyssa. I saw you all on the news. Alyssa, your voice, you're very, very vocal on this tragedy that befell your both friends this morning. I want to start off by asking you the first question. Where is Kia Seelie right now? [00:00:40] Speaker B: Kaya is abroad. Kaya is Kaya medical treatment? Yeah. [00:00:44] Speaker A: Kaya is abroad. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Yes, she has been for a while now as they have the better facilities to aid in her speedy recovery. [00:00:53] Speaker A: I'm very happy that you all were able to get her outside and for her to be out there. Now Alyssa, I go and tell you it's plenty speculation. A lot is being said in the public's domain and we are not happy. People are not happy. There's too much questions and very, very little answers. We saw the, we saw the drama. We saw what unfolded. She is now not a suspect, but she has now been officially a warrant has been officially issued for her. She has the DPP has instructed charges. Why was she allowed to leave the country? At what point before these charges did they ever tell her she was a suspect? [00:01:32] Speaker B: No, they did not. [00:01:33] Speaker A: What happened in the pre. Dawn in the pre. Early hour, not the prena. In the very early onset in the aftermath of this shooting when she was at hospital, what was the visitation like? What took place? The police there guarding her. Were they, did they have her in handcuffs? What was it? [00:01:50] Speaker B: No, she was not in handcuffs. I don't know if the people would have read her statement given through her lawyer. She would have said that she woke up to an officer over her on the, when she was on the hospital bed just you know, guarding her, looking at her. She would have also heard them like whispering. She explained that she was really scared. She wasn't sure if they were about to finish her off. And then when she was discharged from the hospital, they escorted her home. They did not arrest her. And my question is if she was this big wanted shooter that you are trying to paint her to be and some of the nation is being so gullible as to say, well the DPP wouldn't allow for that. Just so I want to tell you all that not because the DPP got evidence. It means he got the truth. Right. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Well said. Well said. Because he can only do he, he's not Investigating this, he gets a file before him. The investigating officer says, this is the evidence we have. He that check all the boxes. He not only seen personally walking around will have his office doing that. [00:03:08] Speaker B: He will. [00:03:08] Speaker A: The police come with information based on the law. He instructs or advises what the next phase is. Now you can tell us this interview. I am very brutal and I just get to the. I. I just dig deep because I heard some things over the weekend. I'm being honest with you, right? I was at a social event and I met officers and one whom I know very well because they know me. And we sat and we talk. I cannot divulge his identity and I will not. But what he said to me shook me. While I was looking at him sitting down there, I was shook. He shaked me to my core. I couldn't. I went home. I woke up yesterday morning in preparation for chatting with you. I could not. I haven't even said to the public as yet what I was told. Now, I've been hearing things on both sides. The police say. Now I got. I will tell you one time because leading up to what I'm going to ask you to do for me next, I heard officers, senior officers spoke with me and they said, davey, they were not part of the active investigations, but you know, the police service, they have high rank, so they would get information they would know, they would ask questions and they would think they and all felt it was questionable the officer's actions, what happened with that shooting, as one. Then I got another officer giving me another slant to this thing and told me, he said, you don't have the information that the police have, so you don't know. Here is what took place. And he went down and told me what happened. He said, dude, he said, davy, I'm telling you, this is what we know. And they have. In conclusion to that statement, he said they have been watching Joshua and Kaya for some time because so by. So by. So by. So I said, you serious? He said, they have been looking at them. So Kaya would have regained consciousness, brought home. Tell me she would have spoken to you family. What did Kaya in her cognitive state say to you, all that transpired on that day. Was she in Maloney? [00:05:25] Speaker B: Yes. Kaya already gave a statement to the public about the ordeal that would have took place in Maloney. You know, it's available to the public. [00:05:35] Speaker A: I saw it. But I want you to tell me. [00:05:38] Speaker B: So she would have said that they were. Joshua? No, I can't really recall it exactly because it was long And I would have read it. [00:05:47] Speaker A: No, just summarize. Just summarize what she told you. Just summarize what you would have said. [00:05:51] Speaker B: That Joshua had to make her stop and she wasn't paying much attention. She was on her phone and she heard Joshua say dough, butter and reverse. And as she was, as they were reversing, the police officer cut in front of their vehicle. And the same guy that Joshua said doe bother to went in to the vehicle. She said that a gun was pointed and Joshua pedal. And that is what led to the chief. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Why did Alyssa say at any point? Because to leave Maloney. I can tell you the path. There's a street called Flamingo Boulevard. Maloney they would have drove around. It's a. It's a street by a church. They go around the corner and that street heads north. Take them to a road called Piaco Old road. At Piaco Old Road, you can take left or right or you can go straight across. Straight across would lead you to the prisons down there in a dead end taking. Turning right will take you to the main road. Priority bus shoot. But turning left will take you to the highway. So they probably turn left and sped along Piarcole Road, which is kind of it. Our cars park at the side. I pass there, I see it. And it get to the highway. Now, to get on the highway, Joshua and Kaya would have had to take a U turn by the Maloney traffic lights and head a western direction. All of this was done while police was in hot pursuit. [00:07:20] Speaker B: Well, Kaya said in her statement that there were no sirens. [00:07:25] Speaker A: There were no sirens? [00:07:27] Speaker B: No. Throughout the chase there were no sirens. Only coming down to the end when another vehicle started to pursue them is when sirens were on. [00:07:39] Speaker C: But. [00:07:39] Speaker B: And the initial pursuit. She said she did not hear any sirens. [00:07:45] Speaker A: I want to. I want to tell you something. Sirens was on. But let me get this part right. So all the way down to the highway. We check in from by Maloney traffic lights, which is the lights. If you're heading in a western direction, is the traffic lights after Mausika. If you're heading east, is the traffic lights before Mausika a U turn. So then break the traffic light. I don't know. They get. They get a green light. I don't know. They safely make a U turn. With police now chasing them from heading east to heading west. They reach. I don't know at what point on the highway. They turn off the highway again. That road to cross. I don't know where it is. If they had to turn left or Right. I can't. I don't know where the street is. But all of that took place and at no point Kia said that she told Joshua pull aside. [00:08:49] Speaker B: And yeah, she did say that she was telling Joshua to pull aside. [00:08:54] Speaker A: And Joshua ignored. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Yes. She said, don't worry, don't worry. We will be good. Don't worry, don't worry. And then when he finally stopped, that's when he wind down the glass and put out his hands in surrender. [00:09:12] Speaker A: And that is when the shots. Well, we saw that end part of it. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Did I list, did Kaya said if Joshua was in the possession of a firearm? [00:09:23] Speaker B: No, she said she kept screaming from the onset. She kept screaming, screaming that there was no gun. There was no gun. Even in her most recent statement, she said that she never held a gun, much less fired a gun at police officers. [00:09:37] Speaker A: So she is the one. She did not shoot at the police. [00:09:41] Speaker B: No, Joshua did not either. There was no gun. [00:09:43] Speaker A: There was no gun in the car. So the question is, why did Joshua, when he got onto the highway and the second vehicle, the second decide to pursue them? He didn't just stop the car, but I didn't decide just stop the vehicle at that point. [00:10:00] Speaker B: I believe it was slight, slight risk. And I think yes, because he was fearful for his life and he had a right to be because we see what took place. You understand, a lot of people want to make speculations on things they do not know. Which would have been the chase. We saw no video with the chase. The police officers are not speaking about this chase. And what exactly happened and where exactly they drove. We have no evidence. [00:10:29] Speaker A: The commissioner said, just like you, you all don't know what happened leading up to the final event. [00:10:35] Speaker B: We don't know. Tell us. And you see, everybody wants to distract the nation so what happened leading up to the final event. But the point is the police murdered a surrendering man in cold blood. [00:10:48] Speaker A: Well, allegedly. [00:10:49] Speaker B: You all want to justify, right. If you all want to justify the actions of the police officer on the onset of the crash of vehicle where the. Where Joshua held his hands up in surrender by using the chase that happened prior, then you all need to go in the jails and execute every man shock. [00:11:13] Speaker A: All right. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Because that would mean that nobody has the right to due process. [00:11:19] Speaker A: What I am saying, right? This is what I trying to understand. I will share with you something here on that because I'm not picking up for the police or Kaya and Joshua not defending either. We're just trying to understand as from your friendship with them to us John public Now, you said he was fearful for his life. Flight he ran. If police. If I am fearful for my life, I wouldn't try to go in a side street. I would stop that car on the highway in full view of people. Even if you take my life. It had too much motorists around, so I slowed on the car. I stopped. I had to do it in a safe way. Are stopping this car turned into a side street where we thank God we saw the footage so we could lean towards a surrender. Innocent is debatable, but a surrender. Do you know Joshua to be in any activities, transporting drugs, anything of that nature? I mean, he's dead. So at the end of the day, if you say, you know, he was questionable, you can say that, no, I [00:12:36] Speaker B: don't know anything like that. [00:12:38] Speaker A: So it begs to differ. Now, I am not saying that a man who is surrendering even after he was shooting at police. I spoke with Gary Griffith last week, and Gary and other officers said even if the person shot at officers who were in hot pursuit, if the officers corner the person and they surrender their gun, the threat to life, the clear and present danger no longer exists. The police cannot treat the person and kill them. That is understood. So Joshua Hands came out. I saw that he surrendered. The whole question is, why did he not? If you're saying he was fearful for his life, not just do so in the public, in the open middle of the highway, or shoot me in front of everybody? Correll, people and cars was there there. Why not? Did you ask Kaya why did he say anything to her before he died [00:13:31] Speaker B: while it was saying, joshua, stop. Joshua, stop. You see the question you're asking me, you know, who would have been able to answer it perfectly? Joshua. But he isn't here. That is my point. And people have this way of saying, you know, well, if they're running from the police, that what I was doing. The reserves are there. They're running from the police. Imagine a man is running away. He is running away. He is not grand charging at y' all to cause you all to have to attack him in any way. And if he is running away, we have to presume that he is running away from repercussions or some sort of the law, you know, regardless of what it might be, whether it be a ticket, a speeding ticket, whatever the case may be. I have a police officer customer. When it says he came to purchase from me, he said, gil, I know done run down Amandi. I say, hey, hey. All of that still run down people. I thought all they're just killing them. He said nah, Gail. He was trying. He was on the bus route and trying to get. We are running down. I said well good job. Actually run him down and you catch him and. And he ain't kill him. You understand? So that's the thing. If a man is running away, he's trying to avoid the law in some way, right? And if he's trying to avoid the law in some way, why not apprehend him? Especially seeing that Joshua surrendered so surrendered so that he could then face the law. Why would you kill him? [00:14:51] Speaker A: Agreed. [00:14:52] Speaker B: He is not grand charging at you. And that is the. The point of view I want the nation to think about. Because everybody is so daft and so gullible to believe that, you know, you deserve to there because you're running from the police. All you're perfect all you never do nothing wrong. Nobody never break a traffic light. Nobody never had a. [00:15:16] Speaker A: One of the things. I mean I saw a chase on the priority bus route I was about to drive across and a man driving a Hilux evaded a roadblock that was held high up on the route and he sped off, broke a traffic light by Red Hill junction and ran head on to a maxi in the opposite direction, injuring himself. Damage damaging. Basically writing off the Hilux, damaging the maxi to the tune of over $200,000 in damages and injuring some of the passengers. He was held at the side of the road. I saw that. And the police arrested him but he was evading, he was running. There was no guns in the van and they took him to a room. I don't know what happened after but the point I'm trying to make to you is this. In a situation where people are scared for their lives when it comes to police officers. Joshua surrendered because he crashed when he turned miss. He misjudged the corner. He crashed. That was the point of surrender. [00:16:15] Speaker B: He. It don't matter why he surrender, he still surrender. It showed that he had no gun. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Did anybody so far that he wanted [00:16:23] Speaker B: to preserve his life. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Did anybody show that. [00:16:26] Speaker B: You know what? I shut up. Running just here. All the catchments just here. Just lock them up. But don't kill me now. That's what he was saying. And still 19 bullets. Well, there are so many. They are murderers, raped gang offenders that would be on the run from police for years and they are still not executed. They get their chance to have due process. So why was Joshua robbed of that chance? And why is Kaya now robbed of a particular future that she would have dreamed of? She's in a wheelchair, she's paralyzed. She cannot walk. She cannot even barely hug her daughter with feeling it properly because she had no feeling from her waist go down. Okay, how is that here? [00:17:13] Speaker A: Okay, I understand that since the police has made this, this issuance of this warrant, has Kaya been well, she would have been appraised of it. Is she difficult to get in touch with? Did the police, were the police able to speak with her via the phone informing her of the situation unfolding in Trinidad or did she just hear it in the papers or by you guys? [00:17:36] Speaker B: The police has been going about this entire thing very unprofessionally and this adds to the reason why I think they should never be trusted. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Okay, we get that. [00:17:45] Speaker B: Strongly believe what I'm trying to get. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Did they speak with her? [00:17:48] Speaker B: This is an entire cover up, right? It's not hard to get you too, but did the police officially call Kaya to tell her that she was a suspect? Okay, Kaya heard this on social media like everybody else, like John Public. [00:18:03] Speaker A: So Kaya has not been contacted by the ttps. But what about the family? Were the family members alerted or everybody [00:18:13] Speaker B: just so everybody heard on the media. So the news, the news not before us. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. As we point, I want to get so up to now, up until this point, because up until you were leading that, that protest yesterday, which I want to talk to in a few minutes with you to find out what happened there. Up until this morning, Kaya Seeley has not received a phone call nor has the police officers come to her official residence in Trinidad, speak with her parents or anybody to say, well listen, we are trying to get on to Kaya. Can you provide us with a number so we can call her so that she can leave where she is in the US and return to Trinidad. Because the police said in the papers if she doesn't voluntarily come, Interpol will be in contacted and they would look to get her to extradite her. That is what was said public's domain. So I'm asking you, did the police senior officials make any contact with her family officially to get a number so that they can call her and get her to come to Trinidad while that [00:19:13] Speaker B: done, as far as I am concerned, as far as you know which is, which would have been from last night and no, they did not execute an official warrant and I say it from last night because last night would have been the last time I on my phone before this interview. I literally just woke up and came on this interview. So I'm not sure if any Recent updates were made, but as far as I know, the last update being before I went in my bed. No, they did not send. [00:19:47] Speaker A: How often do you speak with Kaya? [00:19:51] Speaker B: Often enough. [00:19:52] Speaker A: All right, so it's. So if the police was to ask you as a friend, so to speak, or her parents family to provide a number to reach Kaya, do you already [00:20:01] Speaker B: have a number to reach Kaya? Don't let them fool all. Them have everything. [00:20:05] Speaker A: They have it nice. So, I mean, would she be coming back to Trinidad anytime soon or. She continues to seek her medical treatment outside. [00:20:13] Speaker B: She continues to seek medical treatment. Her rehabilitation was already prolonged because she would have had to be in and out the hospital. She wouldn't have been able to start getting physiotherapy, you know, immediately after the incident, which could be very crucial to her recovery because if, you know, my uncle is a physiotherapist and the longer a patient takes to start physiotherapy, the harder it. The harder it is to get them back to be able to walk or to move again. [00:20:46] Speaker A: All right, there's a call. [00:20:47] Speaker B: She was already at a disadvantage with that and she is getting better medical treatment in the state. [00:20:53] Speaker A: I am happy to hear that. I taking a call with you this morning. Respectfully, Good morning caller. Please be respectful. Good morning. [00:21:00] Speaker C: I always respect for Davy, as I say right at the end of it, somebody is dead, a young person is dead and someone is crippled. Right. [00:21:09] Speaker B: I'm not hearing. [00:21:10] Speaker A: Don't worry, I'll tell you after. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:12] Speaker C: You said the DPP will act accordingly and maybe this is a very ticklish situation, but I you don't go put your foot in there. More to this case. They believe it just for Debbie. Have a wonderful day. [00:21:28] Speaker A: My brother. All right, cool. He sent people put a foot on the mouth with this case and you know, he was concerned about it. Respectfully, quickly, good morning. [00:21:37] Speaker C: I'm sorry that Kyle is not hearing me because I wanted to congratulate her for doing the right thing and leading a demonstration to. [00:21:47] Speaker A: No, this is Alyssa. Alyssa led the demonstration. [00:21:51] Speaker C: Sorry, Alyssa. Right. Speaking and speaking truth to power and young people, they are doing the right thing and they're doing it seriously in this democracy. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:02] Speaker C: But what I wanted to ask Alyssa is that I call last night on my Facebook page for a commission of inquiry in order to get the answers that we need now. A commission of inquiry. That tool available prime minister of this country to treat with this disquiet in society by people who have a legitimate concern. So I'm hoping that they could think about that and place that within the arsenal as they decide to pursue this matter. [00:22:32] Speaker A: Thank you, David. So Eric wanted to congratulate you, Alyssa, on you standing up as a young person in this country for democracy, for truth, for justice and demanding answers. Let's talk about that protest that you led yesterday. What took place. I understand the police disperse you guys prematurely. What was happening yesterday? [00:22:52] Speaker B: The police did not disperse us prematurely. Which is yet another lie given by that establishment in order to sow discord between those who may be thinking about coming out to the other protest because we have other purposes plan the next one is on Wednesday 27 May, in front of the DCC's office for 4pm they would have. They try a lot of intimidation tactics. This is why they would have made that statement right after. To make people feel as though, yeah, when all you come, we run in all your docomo this and that. The only thing prejudices of public safety is them. They have the weapons. We had no weapons. The only weapons we had is the placards in our hands saying justice for Kaya and justice for Joshua. You understand? We had our voices. And that to them is their greatest weapon. That is. That is our greatest weapon. They don't like to hear us speaking out for ourselves. So what exactly happened to. Officers would have tried to come and pull me to the side to say, ma', am, I'm giving all your five more minutes. This was about 4, 45 minutes before the process actually ended, before we decided to end it on our own accord. Okay, five more minutes, I say, because the crowd gained a little. Because at that time the crowd has kind of come in the. In the road a bit because, you know, with. With emotions and stuff. Yeah, you would have to kind of. And it had a lot of people, which I am grateful for. Right, right. So I think don't worry, I would get the crowd under control. So I told them, I said, go back closer to the. The reason why they had gravitated to the road as well is because the officers blocked off the street so that nobody would be able to pass up the road. So. Because I was thinking, well, you know, the block of this street so we can have more space. Right. But anyways, they. They made us an issue and I told them so, you know, kind of go back more on the pavement. [00:24:45] Speaker A: All right. [00:24:45] Speaker B: So when I did that, we continued what we were doing with the interviews with the Chance. And then. Then about 35 officers, the same officers came and was like Ms. Philips in five minutes ago. We tell earlier to wrap it up. So I just started looking the next direction. [00:25:06] Speaker A: But let me ask you this question. [00:25:07] Speaker B: You don't want to have to deal with them. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Yeah, but let me ask you this. [00:25:11] Speaker B: I already know I sent who I supposed to right below. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Right. That's the question. Did you apply to be able to demonstrate? It is an soe. So we still in a state of emergency. So you went to the pre. To the relevant authorities and you submitted your doc. Your paper, your paperwork for the rights to come out and do your. Your calm protest. Yeah. [00:25:33] Speaker B: You don't need any rights. You need to send a notice. [00:25:36] Speaker A: Notice? I don't know, I just asking. I never. [00:25:38] Speaker B: According to section 109 of the summary offenses act and even under the athlete they cannot prohibit a standstill peaceful process. The only thing you would need permission for is to utilize the road in the sense of marching. So you know, sometimes you have matches or you're walking up and down the street or from the Savannah to Independence Square. Yes, that is what you would need permission for. Because the police would have to be there to, you know, and the traffic and things like that. But fast chances process. You only have to send them notice at least 48 hours in advance and no more than 14 days. And for that particular process, I would have sent them the notice on May [00:26:20] Speaker A: 25. Who did you send the notice to? [00:26:23] Speaker B: Which the head office of the administration building. [00:26:26] Speaker A: So they would have gotten that. Beautiful. So you cross your T's and you dot your I's. All right. Did. As far as you know, Kaya did not know she was a suspect in this? She was. Was she ever tested or checked for gunpowder residue on her hands? [00:26:41] Speaker B: No, she was. [00:26:42] Speaker A: She was never. They never. So she was allowed to go home via police escort and on her own volition with the assistance of family and friends was able to purchase a ticket and leave this country freely. Journey to the U.S. she has a visa. She was able to journey to the US and she's now seeking medical attention. And we leave with family and friends abroad in the United States. Correct. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, she's also a US citizen. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Oh, she's also a US citizen. [00:27:10] Speaker C: Wow. [00:27:12] Speaker A: She has. Well, look at that. We did not even know that. So she's a dual citizenship holder. One person is asking. Could you ask Alyssa why? The question to Alyssa. Did Kaya tell her why they were running? Kaya did not say why they were running. Kaya was screaming at Joshua to stop. Alyssa is now giving an account that her friend told her. I was telling Joshua, stop. Stop. Joshua said to her that. Don't worry, we'll be okay. That is the account that Alyssa is sharing with us this morning. Alyssa, outside of getting to the DPP's office to lead another protest, what are your plans or the team for the near future? Have you all retained an attorney on behalf of higher as yet? Or are you waiting for when she returns to Trinidad? Is she planning on coming back at all right now? Because you said no contact was made with her personally or her family or anyone to tell her this. This is just in the newspapers and the pub and in the mini media houses. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker A: So she's going about her business as. As usual. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yes, she is. Because she is continuing to seek her medical treatment, dealing with this ordeal mentally and emotionally as much as she can. I must say that her faith in God is not shaken. And when the warrant is officially handed to her lawyer, or to how whatever may be, they will decide what they are doing after the fact. [00:28:47] Speaker A: So it was only then, when official communication is. Is. Is hard with her, then you all will decide what's. What's the next step, who attorney you're going to get and what's moving forward. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:02] Speaker A: And just to wrap the interview, finally, as far to the best interest of you, what. You know, and the family, Kaya and Joshua was not known to police. [00:29:14] Speaker B: No. Kaya or Joshua did not have any criminal record. Their criminal record is clean. I mean, I heard you say that the police were looking at them for how. How much of a law. [00:29:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what. That's what I was told. I. I don't. [00:29:32] Speaker B: If that's the case, then where. Where the arrest for whatever's looking at them for like. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I have some questions coming up. Let me just hear what detectors have to say. Hold on. Quickly, hold on. [00:29:44] Speaker D: Morning. Morning, Davy. All right, just putting this in the mix now. Listen, the car crashed against a wall, okay? A concrete wall. When those fire officers were firing from the back and the side, why couldn't it have been a ricocheted bullet coming out of the back window? Because if you suspect this woman of shooting at the police, you would have proven gun residue. [00:30:14] Speaker A: All right, that is true. I know the message a little long, Davey. And Kaya, it is extremely important to maintain accuracy and specific statements must be made. Samaru did not surrender. The vehicle he was fleeing from the police with crashed into a drain and therefore preventing him from further, you know, running in many. In too many inaccuracies and too many holes in this entire situation. And accurate wording is critical. And according to one text. Davey, good Morning. If Kaya is a US citizen, why was the FBI not investigating this case? We can answer that question. Let me take this final one respectfully. Good morning. Quickly. [00:30:59] Speaker C: Hey, Morales. Yeah. [00:31:00] Speaker A: Quick, quick, Morales. [00:31:02] Speaker C: Advice. I listen to the girl and I'm very glad. You know, we have somebody in Trinidad who. Who's standing up for something. But I want to advise I'm moving forward, successful in the protesters. Limit the protests for a certain number of people because. And they could do petitions for the arrest because having that unwilling crowd, they're going to give the police reason to. To stop you. And they'll be able to do so again about this case, kind of making them look bad. [00:31:28] Speaker A: All right, thanks, Morales. [00:31:29] Speaker C: Moving forward. [00:31:30] Speaker A: All right. So what Morales was saying to you, Kaya, Alyssa, is that, you know, limiting numbers in your protests going forward. All right, so they all avoid the unwanted attention from the officers. Let me take this last one. [00:31:43] Speaker C: Quick, quick, quick. We still have to find out why this was running from the police or she was telling them to stop. That's fine, but he doesn't deserve his dead. But why was he running from the place? [00:31:53] Speaker A: Well, that is a question. Well, okay. Now, Alyssa, in conclusion, that caller said that Kaya must have known why Joshua was running from the police. I beg to differ. She may or may not have known. Joshua is not here to tell us why. So that question will remain unanswered as far as I'm concerned. Alyssa, I want to congratulate you as a young person standing up for justice. But I want to also urge you in order for us to take what you're saying with credibility. Please. I know it might be difficult, but try your best to contain your emotions, to get your message out. Because a lot of persons, even though you are speaking truth or you may be saying something that is very vital and accurate, they may say she's just emotional and they will pay attention to your emotions, your rants, rather than the message in which you want to convey my little advice. I am not an expert. [00:32:50] Speaker B: My answer to that, thank you very much, is that I am not in the business of convincing anybody. It's either you believe Kaya or you believe the police. Right? We saw the video clear. We saw clearly that Joshua put his hands up in surrender. We saw clearly that the police officers did not take cover when they came out of their vehicle. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Saw that too. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Which would have prove that Kaya was actually shooting at them. Because if your lies were in imminent danger, you would have taken cover all. You wouldn't have come out full chest out. [00:33:23] Speaker A: Yep. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Right. So I am. No way don't make. I want people to know that this is not no police as all your believe, man. I know. I am calling for the people who believe and calling for the people who know and calling for the people who have seen pattern recognition with any police service to know that it has been years that we have been killing people innocently and who believe that and who might be self fearful for some reason or self timid and still, you know, unsure if they should come out. I am speaking to those people. I'm not speaking to the people who already have their minds made up. [00:33:56] Speaker A: All right, Alyssa, I want to thank you so much for taking the call. I really appreciate it because I remember in the early onset of this Joshua and Kaya Seeley shooting, I wanted to reach you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for accepting this interview. And as the story unfolds and develops, please know I'll be reaching out to you again. Thank you again and all the best. Thank you. That was Alyssa, the friend of Kaya and Joshua Samaroo. Kaya Celian, Joshua. We got some new story. Kaya is a US citizen as well. Kaya has not been officially told by officers of this country that she is wanted in connection with for the manslaughter for the death of Joshua and other charges. There was no official communique to her family, her parents or nobody in an attempt to get her. It's just all in the public. The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5.