CAR CARE... DO'S AND DONT'S

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Good morning, Trinidad and Tobago. 18 after the hour of 7 o'. [00:00:20] Speaker A: Clock. [00:00:20] Speaker B: Let's get into our interview this morning as we have a guest in studio this morning with us giving us some insight as we always do from time to time. Mr. Antonio Prescott, who is a lecturer at CTS College. Good morning to you, sir. [00:00:32] Speaker A: Good morning, sir. [00:00:33] Speaker B: Pull that microphone closer to you. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Let's put it. Yeah, the whole arm. Right. You're good there. Nice. [00:00:39] Speaker A: I'm good, yeah. [00:00:39] Speaker B: All right, good. So welcome to the program on the morning Rumble here. I don't know if he's an avid listener. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm an avid listener. [00:00:45] Speaker B: You're heady back now at this thing. [00:00:47] Speaker A: I know the bacchanal. [00:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah, the drama. The drama real, boy. The drama real well this morning. I was talking to the listeners this morning about, you know, these, these people that drive on it, that walk the highways in dark clothing and they just don't care. Five deaths over the weekend, four is them to blame. But we're talking on a different side this morning. We complain about gasoline prices, we complain about diesel prices, and yet cng, when you do the conversion, it seems to be giving you problems. But have we ever delved into hybrid vehicles and understand what it does? So this gentleman here is going to speak to us on that. So let's kick the conversation off very quickly as we ask you, what is a hybrid vehicle? [00:01:30] Speaker A: Basically, in layman terms, a hybrid vehicle is a vehicle that uses ice, which is basically internal combustion engine and also an electric motor. And that is what conforms into a hybrid vehicle. A hybrid vehicle, as they say, may be fuel efficient, may be environmentally friendly, less, fewer emissions that will generate from the vehicle. But do we look at the cost of maintaining a hybrid vehicle? I just want to say this, right, A lot of sales representatives that sell hybrid vehicles, they would tell you about the features of the vehicle, which is awesome. But do they tell the customer about the maintenance of the vehicle, what needs to be done over a period of time so that they wouldn't incur in a loss? [00:02:21] Speaker B: Now, I'm happy that you're going to have the discussion this morning. So to the listeners out there this morning, there is something I need to do very quickly before we seriously start. Right? So now that that is happening, I want to remind persons this morning, as we say good morning, we are chatting with Anthony Prescott, who is a lecturer at CTS College in car sales and he's a car sales trainer as well, we're going to talk to you about the new car care do's and don'ts. We have identified what a hybrid vehicle is. It's a combination between gasoline and electro electric. All right, now what is the, the difference between a fully electric car and a hybrid outside of the gasoline factor? [00:03:10] Speaker A: Okay, so fully electric vehicle basically utilizes fully electric, which is electric motors it governed by. And then with a hybrid vehicle it's partial gasoline and then partial electric which will be electric components. So that's the difference there. In layman's terms, we got that down. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Right. So one vehicle you plug into charge and the other one the. Well, we're going to get our question answered now. So I have driven hybrid cars before. Before we get to the maintenance factors of it, I want persons to get this information in. I've driven hybrid cars before and one of the things I noticed is that under a certain mileage or kilometers in terms of traveling, I would be on electric mode. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:55] Speaker B: But if I accelerate, I go to gas and electric mode basically is somewhere around 40 kilometers per hour somewhere in that vicinity. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Right. [00:04:05] Speaker B: I do. I did notice when I come to a standstill at a traffic light or even in traffic, the vehicle shuts off. There's no, there's. It's, it's strictly electric. It's silent. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know why it shuts off? Because it's going to regenerate the battery. Because remember now with a hybrid vehicle it needs to put energy into the battery. So each time you stop is when it is now the hybrid is working and it putting regeneration into the battery so that it charging itself. [00:04:36] Speaker B: I tried to understand here before we get to the other do's and don'ts. With a regular vehicle, the alternator charges the battery. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Correct. And in a hybrid vehicle you do not have an alternator. You have electric motor which governs alternator and other components in order to recharge the battery. So in a hybrid vehicle, the life of the vehicle is the battery. It's the most expensive component in the. Well, not the engine because the battery most of the times will be at the back seat underneath per se, under the carpet. Or actually it might be in the back of the seat itself. According to the different brand of vehicles per se. [00:05:23] Speaker B: I have a caller burning to get in on the program. Boy. Hello, good morning. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Thanks for taking the score quickly. But boss, is the cause of these vehicles blowing up the casino fire? Because combination of electric and gasoline. [00:05:37] Speaker B: All right, we're gonna get that question answered. [00:05:39] Speaker C: One more question. The battery, how much battery what's the cost of a battery? [00:05:44] Speaker B: All right, okay, so we get into those questions. Let's talk about the blowing up. We'll get to the cost of the batteries after. [00:05:48] Speaker A: So this is facts. And it's more prone for a fire with a hybrid vehicle than a gasoline vehicle. Why is that? Because anything electrical will create a fire. I'm not saying here, and I don't want car brands to take this a wrong idea. It's more prone because you have electric components mixed with gasoline. And if it is, you do not do the regular maintenance, eventually it could cause into a fire. [00:06:21] Speaker B: All right, so fire. [00:06:24] Speaker A: So you understand what I'm saying? It's prone to. I'm not saying that hybrid vehicle burn down regularly. It happens. If we look at statistics, a hybrid vehicle tend to burn down more than a gasoline vehicle. Like statistics. If it is we want to Google or if it is, you want to utilize ChatGPT. [00:06:42] Speaker B: All right, okay. So basically a hybrid vehicle is more susceptible to burning down. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Correct. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Than a gas, than a regular gasoline. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Vehicle because of the electric components combined with gasoline, which is a hybrid vehicle. [00:07:03] Speaker B: All right, let's get to the information that is hidden from us. We get all the features, what this hybrid can do. It's quiet, it minimizes the usage of gasoline, it helps you with the bill. Even though I tend to disagree somewhat because if you're driving at 100 kilometers per hour on our highways, you are going to be using gas, it's not going to be electric. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:27] Speaker B: So you're burning the same fuel. So how is that saving me money other than if I drive in real slow? Because I have noticed if I crawl in, let's say I start the vehicle, which starts very quietly and I rolling at a 30 kilometers per hour, that's basically my foot not really on the pedal. The car is propelling itself, more or less. I touch it lightly. I am not using gas. But once I mash that pedal and I accelerate, I switch over to gas mode, the engine comes on and I'm burning the. I'm burning gas as usual. How is that saving me money? [00:07:58] Speaker A: So here it is in Trinidad and Tobago. Our island is very small, but when we think about larger markets like internationally, us, uk, when you have to make a drive from state to state, you will save. But in Trinidad, moving from one point, whether it be from Arima to Chagona, Chagona support of Spain, you're not really saving the way that you would think that you would save. If that makes sense. [00:08:24] Speaker B: It makes sense. [00:08:25] Speaker A: Yeah. But still it doesn't Let me understand. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Let me, let me get to this part with you because I want to clear up some of these misconceptions. At what stage does the, you said long distance, right? State to state overseas. Longer travel. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Longer travel, yeah. [00:08:41] Speaker B: How is that burning less fuel or saving as opposed to me traveling shorter distances in Trinidad? At what stage does the car move from electric mode to, in other words, I don't want to be a two fold question. When you are driving on electric mode with the hybrid, what speed, if there is any at all, or is it the only one, you match the X with the car, switch over. I was told initially that if you drive up TO I think 70 kilometers per hour, 70 to 80 kilometers per hour, you would be on electric mode only. That has proven false. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, understood. But with long distance now it kicks into the electric, where from one point to the next, short distances is more gasoline not utilizing. And that's something on the international market. And it even was said by experts that you wouldn't really save much when it is that you do short distance. And compared to long distance. And in terms of when it is a kick in, I may not know that exact time frame per se, but when you look at that short distances, you're not really saving that much. And then when you think about the cost factor as well in terms of maintenance, because with an electric vehicle you need to maintain the lithium battery, it's lithium nickel metal, it's made of and it has a cooling filter. And that cooling filter should be serviced within two to three months. Because remember, debris, remember like a lot of dust from the vehicle. Because imagine that it's in the back of the vehicle, sometimes even underneath, underneath the carpet. So that's a lot of dust accumulating. So when it is a lot of dust and debris accumulate that now will cause the vehicle, after a time the battery itself to heat up, which will overheat and that could lead into a fire. So regular maintenance is extremely important. And with a lithium nickel metal battery, you need to maybe utilize more AC than usual because if you have that in your vehicle and you're not utilizing ac, then after all the dust particles will come into it. So you look at it from a point of view when you're thinking that you're saving, but when you utilize ac, obviously you'll need to utilize more the consumption of the, the engine and also of gas as well. So you're spending more. [00:11:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:11:14] Speaker B: I have more questions. Hello, Good morning. [00:11:16] Speaker C: Morning. Durabasa here. You know, a couple years ago I was in the Market and I looked at a hybrid vehicle and I was told that that little engine that they have putting there does not actually run the vehicle, but recharges the battery. And that, that made sense to me. But you're speaking here of an earlier version of the hybrid vehicle where the engine would also kick in to run the wheel as opposed to charging battery. Am I getting it clear? Are we talking about the same thing? Can I buy one of those vehicles where the engine runs the wheels as opposed to charge the backfire or. You know, it's a bit confusing here. [00:12:01] Speaker B: It is. [00:12:02] Speaker A: It is confusing because. [00:12:04] Speaker B: All right, thank you, Dorabasa Investigation. [00:12:06] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:12:06] Speaker A: All right, we have hybrid and then after we have the hybrid that you could plug into charge and then you have the part that it could charge the battery, the car itself doing that charging when I mentioned when you stop and then you have electric. So it will be confusing because it's so many different tier levels to this. But the topic is really on hybrid per se. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Right. So let's get, let's, let's keep on that. Let's talk a little bit about what the sales reps don't tell you because they tell you about the sunroof. They tell you about the, the, the. You're in an AX model. So you have your butter cushion bucket seats. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Correct. [00:12:48] Speaker B: The stereo system. You have a 10.5 display in your screen where you could is Android. You could hotspot your phone and they tell you about all these fancy features. What are some of the things that you think customers need to know when they are purchasing a hybrid? [00:13:03] Speaker A: So for example, it have a particular vehicle, I wouldn't say any name, but when it is that the battery is failing, the AC in the vehicle do not work. And that's crazy. So that means now you can say, well, I may not look to fix the hybrid battery because then after, how would you feel cool in this hot tropical climate that we in? So sometimes it's like you double spending and a battery because the guest asks how much for a battery? For some of these vehicles, it range from I would say 15 to 20,000. [00:13:46] Speaker B: What? [00:13:46] Speaker A: 15 to 20,000 for your battery? [00:13:49] Speaker B: From 15 to $20,000. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Correct. [00:13:53] Speaker B: To replace the battery. [00:13:54] Speaker A: To replace the battery? Yeah. To get. To replace the battery with a new one. Yeah. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Okay. How often do you need, how often do you need to maintain the battery? [00:14:04] Speaker A: Okay. Servicing the battery should be once per year. But I mentioned about it have a cooling fan and some of them are carbon filter and that needs to be cleaned two to three months because if it is, you do not clean that often and the debris and the dirt get into that. Then after it could affect the battery, cause it to overheat. And that's why we would see some vehicles being burnt. And it start from the back, not the front, because the battery is in the back of most hybrid vehicles when. [00:14:39] Speaker B: You buy these new vehicles. And they. So your battery should be serviced at least once every three months. [00:14:47] Speaker A: No, once every year. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Once every year. [00:14:49] Speaker A: But a cooling system should be serviced every two to three months. [00:14:52] Speaker B: What's the cooling system? [00:14:53] Speaker A: The cooling system is basically a fan that cools the battery. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Where that is located, that will be. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Located right onto the battery itself. [00:15:02] Speaker B: So what you're doing with that fan. [00:15:03] Speaker A: That you're taking all that fan and it's like wash it out, clean it out and so forth. And then you put it back in because that fan, it's helping to cool the battery. And obviously any fan, you know, like a filter that is will accumulate dirt, like just like the air filter. But when you are cleaning that fan, you need to clean or change your air filter and also your AC filter. Because what people do understand about this hybrid battery is that it needs to be cool in its entirety. Meaning not just the fan, which part the hybrid battery is, but also your air condition, also your air filter. And you need to check to see if you have any coolant leaks. Because if it is that you have any coolant leaks that could obviously create an overheat. So everything with hybrid is all about maintaining that battery to be cool. And living in the tropical climate, we at a disadvantage because it's very hot. So that's why, for example, you may see a vehicle caught on fire. It may be gasoline, it may be hybrid, but it will be more prone to hybrid vehicles than gasoline vehicles. And that's something that I want persons to know because why hybrid vehicles will be caught on fire? Because it's made up of electric and also gasoline. And when that two mix, what will happen? [00:16:23] Speaker C: Wow. [00:16:24] Speaker B: I have a question for you, but let's take this call quickly. Good morning, David. [00:16:27] Speaker C: Thanks again. Act two good personalities. I'm the architecture man here. I'm very interested in hybrid because gasoline is really, really chop down our race. Which one of the vehicles now these modernized vehicles have no engine. Yes. Vehicle with no engine, no piston, no injection, nothing. But keep the car going. [00:16:53] Speaker A: So what I would say is that I'm here not to talk about any brand. So I wouldn't call any brand name concerning what you mentioned there. We're just talking about hybrid So I would be able to answer that question on air. [00:17:05] Speaker B: Noted. When it comes down to the. The maintenance of the. Of the. Of these vehicles. All right. You are simply saying that more is needed. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Correct. Is right. [00:17:16] Speaker B: To. To deal with with this vehicle as opposed to a regular vehicle. Because you're talking about every two to three months clean my cooling fan and change the filter in the battery plus change my AC filter as well. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Correct. Because. [00:17:36] Speaker B: And then also make sure I have no coolant leaks. Correct. You haven't ready to turn those guys. Yes. So yeah. Make sure everything. [00:17:44] Speaker A: And here it is. Right. It have a particular car. Right. New series shut down on the highway. All check lights came on. And then when it went to the garage it was something called the erg which is basically the engine exhaust. No, it is the engine exhausts recirculation unit that it's called and that need to be changed because the car just automatically shut down on the highway and it had to go by the shop and that unit it tend to be stuck inside. So when that stuck inside it wouldn't be able to generate the battery to be charged up. So it just basically drained on the highway and shut down. And this happened to a few vehicles, new vehicles. And I'm not sure if persons are aware that these things are happening. [00:18:51] Speaker B: Wow. We can't call brands in. Good morning. [00:18:53] Speaker C: Hey J.P. morning. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Good morning. [00:18:56] Speaker C: Alice sent me a guest here. Not too long tuning. So I can't do this topic on the. But what I'm not hearing is before a battery is actually being to be replaced rather than you can repair it no more to get any service out of it itself starts to go bad. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Correct. [00:19:15] Speaker C: Tends to be a bit costly to repair some you just have to actually replace after a period of time. What is recommended is you do a recondition of the entire battery. This can also be a bit costly. And then it started to go bad from the outside going into the middle. I mean I. I own a hybrid and doing service on it that that's what I've been told by the technician. Now these cells when they start to go bad from the outside they don't hold the charge or they don't take the charge. They are very red. They're in the ones in the middle. Transfer to the middle then. So it charges from the inside going into the middle. And this can lead to a lot of problems where the transitioning from the hybrid to the gas gives a little problem and the function as you chill. And it could be a bit frustrating driving and in a particular Brand as well, you know. So while there may be short term benefits or immediate benefits, I think in the long term it. The cost catches up or it tends to be a bit more. But I'd like to hear a little bit more on how these cells charge, replacing the cells and an entire recondition of the battery to make it fully serviceable again. I listen up here. Thank you. [00:20:41] Speaker A: Okay, so this is coming from mechanic standpoint in terms of reconditioning cells. What you are saying is accurate, but that is a bit technical per se, that I may not be able to discuss on that. You know, but what you mentioned, sometimes a cell can go bad and you can recondition it and it can work, but how long it will work for? So that's the question that I would want to ask maybe persons who sell these batteries. [00:21:12] Speaker B: You know, let me take another call. Good morning. [00:21:16] Speaker C: About the battery. With the cost of the battery and how much battery. [00:21:21] Speaker B: All right, so the cost of the battery, based on what the gentleman spoke about a few moments ago, standard correction range between 15, 15 to $20,000. So here's my, my golden question. How often do you think one would. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Need to buy a new battery based on maintenance? For example, let's say that you're not maintaining the battery, not changing the filter, cleaning it and so forth. I could say maybe it may last five years. I could be wrong to be less. It could be less. [00:21:51] Speaker B: So maintenance of the battery gives you a longer lifespan. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Supposed to. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Supposed to. [00:21:56] Speaker A: I remember it's electrical. And with electrical, anything can happen. It comes just like this. You could be driving down the road and it's nighttime and you know that in the day that all your lights were working and all of a sudden roadblock and one of your light is not working and you get a ticket for that. Same thing with a battery, which is lithium, nickel metal. It's electrical, it could be working pretty well. And all of a sudden it could conquer on you. So it have no guarantee. Because why it is that, let's say places and people who sell these different hybrid vehicles don't say we're giving you a guarantee on this battery for 5 years or 10 years. I never heard of that. [00:22:37] Speaker B: Wow. Hello. Good morning. [00:22:40] Speaker C: Morning. Morning. How are you going? [00:22:42] Speaker B: Good program, thank you. [00:22:46] Speaker C: Explain it better. But he had to be a mechanic. [00:22:51] Speaker B: All right, thank you. All right, thank you so much. One caller is saying, this, this man. Boy, Davey, who is this person? Boy, he's speaking the gospel. Boy, who is this man? Another person is saying, davey, what is the cost to service these Cars. Okay, so before you answer that, let's take this one quickly, before I forget. Hello, good morning. [00:23:21] Speaker C: Yes, David, in the U.S. yes, they give you a certain amount of range or a certain amount of years, depends on the hybrid you buy. But now our car is like a phone. A car now especially a full plugin car is a phone. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Correct. [00:23:44] Speaker C: Because if, if you buy a Tesla and, and the program that you had to get with Tesla depends. You could wake up in the morning and Tesla decides, you pay XYZ and your car deciding going away, can't move in facts. [00:23:57] Speaker B: All right, thank you so much. [00:23:58] Speaker C: Enjoy the day. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Yeah, we, yeah, you enjoy your day. So let's talk about the, the service factor. How much does it cost to service? So, and what does the service entail? We talk about service in your hybrid car, not a battery. We're talking about servicing across the board. Because what you have identified so far, right, Is that I had to do multiple services is 12 months. So at least four times for the year. Four times. [00:24:22] Speaker A: A full service costs approximately 2,000 to 2,500. And with a service, what? [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah, repeat, a service costs how much? [00:24:31] Speaker A: Approximately 2,000 to 2,500. [00:24:34] Speaker B: What the $2,000 is for, pal. [00:24:36] Speaker A: So basically with a service you're making sure and check. Yeah, battery is most important to check with the hybrid vehicle. So you're checking the battery, the voltage, how it's reading and so forth. You changing the filter, air filter, carbon filter. Also you would be checking the underneath the suspension. Because remember now with hybrid vehicles it have a generative braking system. It's a bit different. It may be lasting longer than traditional braking system, but that needs to be checked. Also you want to check suspension wise to see if any leaks, any boot rubber that needs to be changed. Also you want to check the engine part as well too. So when you're thinking about a full service of a hybrid vehicle, it costs approximately that. And I mentioned about the vehicle that shut down at the highway and to change the valve unit that was giving trouble to regenerate back the battery that costs $2,500. [00:25:41] Speaker B: I'm getting a message here. He's wrong. The companies, there are companies that are offering seven to eight years warranty on a hybrid battery. I don't know of any. [00:25:50] Speaker A: I don't know of any. [00:25:50] Speaker B: All right, so the gentleman doesn't know. Good morning. [00:25:53] Speaker C: I really have first education number. David, if our service is 25,000, not 25,000. [00:25:59] Speaker A: 25,000. [00:26:00] Speaker B: 2500. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:01] Speaker C: 2000 for the year. I know, I know. Talking about carbon all right. [00:26:07] Speaker B: All right, we're going to. Now how often is. Was a survey no to this. This question I want you to think about. You're servicing your battery every two to three months. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:19] Speaker B: So that's approximately four times for the year or so. Thereabouts. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Service the battery. What's the price to service the battery, clean the fan, change the filter, change. [00:26:28] Speaker A: The service on the battery is pretty reasonable. So that about you like about, let me say 4 to 500. [00:26:34] Speaker B: 4 to 500 to clean the fan. [00:26:36] Speaker A: To clean the fan, change the filter. [00:26:38] Speaker B: In the battery and change the filter in your. In your AC unit. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Correct. [00:26:41] Speaker B: So about 500. [00:26:42] Speaker A: About 500. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Nothing more than that. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:44] Speaker B: But when you're doing a general service on the entire hybrid car, like when you go like in a regular car. All right. Gasoline or diesel, you change your oil filter, your air filter, your. Sometimes you change your fuel filter. Some, some. I talk about the worst. The, the, the, the highest extreme. Right. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:27:00] Speaker B: Highest end of the service. You'll change plugs. [00:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:27:03] Speaker B: Your oils and fluids, you'll change and all of that. That could run you at $1,000. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Correct. Is right. Labor. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Labor. And no, not just, well, the parts to change it. Giving you the average, you might spend $300 for four plugs. Three, $400. Right. For $300 for four plugs, you pay 195. 200 for a gallon of oil. All right. And that gallon of oil now depending on what ship, what brand you're using. So that is 500 there if you're changing plug. But yeah, let's. Minus plug. So you pay 200 for the oil. 45 to 50 for oil filter. [00:27:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:39] Speaker B: You buy an air filter for about 45 as well. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Correct. [00:27:42] Speaker B: So you have like about two. Two something so far. Minus plugs. Plugs, they don't change on everything. [00:27:47] Speaker A: No, no, that is a one off situation. [00:27:48] Speaker B: So minus the plugs. [00:27:50] Speaker C: Right. [00:27:50] Speaker B: You're just doing regular checkup. Your, your oil filter. Fuel filter, not your fuel. The fuel filter to always change. Neither. [00:27:58] Speaker A: No. [00:27:58] Speaker B: So your oil and air filters are the two filters you change most of the times you change the oil. [00:28:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:04] Speaker B: So that tab basically could run you on $500 and then you pay a 250 service. So within 700 or 750 you can service your engine. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Gasoline. [00:28:16] Speaker B: Gasoline and diesel. 800 max. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:19] Speaker B: Maybe take a wash down and all that kind of thing. You check your coolant. If your coolant. Again, you don't want to change coolant unless you have a leak, you know. Right. So you. So, so, so what is the 20, 2500 are trying to get here now? And in a, in a regular car you would service every 5,000km or every three months, whichever one comes first. [00:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:40] Speaker B: All right. Some people take a four months and then they service. So they service like some people service twice for the year. Three times a year. And they're functioning. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:48] Speaker B: With a hybrid vehicle. Can you do that with a hybrid vehicle? [00:28:52] Speaker A: Like changing the oil of the vehicle is said like 7 to 8,000 km oil. [00:28:58] Speaker B: 7 to 8. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah, changing oil. But remember now it complicated in a sense that you're running on gasoline, then you run on hybrid. So for example, it don't have a lot of specialized technicians on hybrid vehicles. So that's why the cost factor for labor would will be more. And then now you need to utilize your scanning tool. You need to utilize your meter to check the voltage and so forth. So you need to have some sort of electrical background as a person specialized in hybrid vehicle. So that why obviously the labor will be a bit more than a traditional mechanic who is only focused and know about gasoline vehicle, who may not have a computer scanner, who may not have a meter to check the voltage of the battery to understand what the reading is supposed to be for each cell within the hybrid vehicle. So it's a bit more complicated for someone to understand and service a hybrid vehicle than a traditional mechanic who focuses on gasoline vehicles. [00:30:04] Speaker B: So we need a hybrid mechanic. You can't take your hybrid car to the regular garage shop. [00:30:10] Speaker A: I say not because let's say for example, that person don't understand hybrid vehicle and maybe twist some wire that it not supposed to be. Sometimes it's an electrical problem that he create. You went in good and come out with the electrical problem and that now would lead to you maybe overheating and a fire could occur. So it's not all of the fires that happening with vehicles are because of manufacture defect, but it could be because of the person who dealt with the vehicle, don't understand the electrical part of it and created something that caused your vehicle to overheat and then lead into a fire. [00:30:49] Speaker B: Wow. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. All right. One person is saying, I on the verge of purchasing my first hybrid. So he's bringing real understanding how does the extra weight associated with the battery being an additional burden on the motor affect the suspension? [00:31:07] Speaker A: So hybrid vehicles are 10% more weight than traditional gas vehicles. And with hybrid vehicle, with the battery being the back, that is a weight on itself, you need to maybe look at focusing on pressuring your tires regularly. And you need obviously to maybe changing tires more because the braking system is different, the acceleration is faster, the weight on the vehicle. So these things, these simple tips that I'm sharing here, people not looking at it, but in essence, you will be spending more with a hybrid vehicle because it's a child that need to be fed consistently. [00:31:47] Speaker C: Wow. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Good morning. [00:31:49] Speaker C: Good morning. So in the beginning when they are, they talked about hybrid coming to the country and the market and that kind of thing. It would have saved customers a lot of money. But from hearing the conversation this morning, we realized all the money that you will be saving will be going back into maintenance. [00:32:10] Speaker A: Yes. And in a lump sum. [00:32:12] Speaker C: So it's like this, you know, mentioned tires and stuff. No company never mentioned that in the advertising. [00:32:17] Speaker A: They would not. Because at the end of the day, the vehicles have to be sold. We bring it into the market and we, you sales reps need to sell the vehicle. [00:32:25] Speaker C: Yeah. And the same you say every three months, your maintenance will cost like 2500. 2500 you're saving every month we'll go back into maintenance. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Well, when I'm saying maintenance, I mean in maintenance, looking at the car, its entirety. Because you could just change your carbon filter, which part the battery is located. But if no, you're not checking your EC system to see if there's any leak. Because the whole idea of that battery is to have it consistently cool because anytime it's hot, that would cause it to overheat and create a fire. So you're not just servicing the battery alone, but you're servicing the entire car itself. And the cooling system is most important. With hybrid vehicles, you definitely need to be utilizing your air condition as much as possible because if you are not and maybe utilizing it for taxi, that is more maintenance and more consistently because a lot of dust and particles and so forth will be getting into the hybrid lithium battery system. [00:33:25] Speaker B: Wow. [00:33:26] Speaker A: Hello. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Good morning. Quickly please, because I run out of time to stay with me after eight. [00:33:35] Speaker C: When it comes to a man pulling bull with one of these little things and don't understand cool. And system alone with Davy. Where you spending $40 to go and buy a filter? Buy something you went and pick up by John Paul. [00:33:49] Speaker B: All right. But maybe a little more. [00:33:51] Speaker C: I, I mean, no. When you go in the company 250. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Well, you have the aftermarket filters. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Yeah. You have the aftermarket filters, correct? Yeah. [00:33:59] Speaker C: It depends on you who want to service the car and where you want. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Correct. Correct. [00:34:04] Speaker C: You understand what I'm saying? That was a long time. [00:34:07] Speaker B: All Right. Thank you so much. [00:34:08] Speaker C: So, partner, thank you. I had a lot more to say, but thank you very much. To explain them that just your cooling system alone in the car, you have to buy coolant for the radiator. Correct. Special coolant just to run through the system to keep the battery alone cool problem by itself. And in Trinidad, which is just one bolt and guide accident and right off and fix back and tell reason. I tell them I was waiting to see how this is going to appear. Not like long time. You could just get in an accident and fix back the car, put it back together and rest in the battery and go, you know, enjoy the day. [00:34:41] Speaker A: You too. Thanks. [00:34:43] Speaker B: You know, how environmentally friendly are these cars and what are some of the pros? Because we have, we, we have heard some things this morning that very negative. I wouldn't say negative, but factual. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:34:55] Speaker B: All right. I don't want to say negative, folks. Don't think that we was here to bash any brand or any or any hybrid cars. You're still free to make your choices. But what we did this morning, and I mean, I'm running out of time and there's so much questions I have on this WhatsApp. I don't know your timing this morning. If I could get you 10 minutes. But the thing is, what are some of the pros, if any at all, in purchasing these cars? [00:35:17] Speaker A: Well, the pros is that lower emissions, lower emissions. And it's environmentally friendly because obviously you're not utilizing much gas than from before. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Because especially if you're in a traffic situation and you're standing still. [00:35:32] Speaker A: So it has that environmentally friendly aspect of it. But I think that the focus is on that where they are selling the vehicle, but they're not telling you the other part, which is the maintenance of the vehicle, which is very costly. Costly. [00:35:49] Speaker B: So. And it should be done timely. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Timely. Correct. [00:35:54] Speaker B: I have a. I have another coolant. Another question here. Boy. DB the car bill. Five years exhaust the recirculator. Hybrids is good. Just do your maintenance as. As needed. One texter is saying, if I fail to do the maintenance, how long would I have with the vehicle before it shuts down? [00:36:16] Speaker A: That's something that I don't want to say because it's very tricky. It's all about how much you are driving per se, compared to someone who just going to work from home to work, work to home compared to someone who may be doing transport with your vehicle. That will be entirely different. So I don't want to give like a particular time frame that if you don't maintain the battery. Maybe within five years you will have to purchase another battery. But the lifespan of the battery from what researchers are saying is like 15 to 20 years. But then after I'm seeing persons who I know personally, after seven years they had to purchase a battery. So we have to wonder and then remember now we are at a disadvantage in the Caribbean. So we would be hearing that persons maybe abroad, maybe got 15 years. But us being in the Caribbean, tropical climate, heat, very hot heat, it may last five years, seven years. But I would say this, a hybrid battery, a hybrid vehicle per se is not lasting longer than a gasoline vehicle. A hybrid vehicle. From what mentioned in terms of data, it's like 100, 220,000 kilometers before you start to get some serious problems with the vehicle. Compared to gasoline vehicles. We have seen vehicles that over 200,000 kilometers and going well. It's just simple things that you have to change. And it's based on your driving and the way how you maintain your car. It has some people who like to hit potholes frequently and that will damage your vehicle in terms of suspension, in terms of other things as well. So maintenance is everything. So some people may say once you maintain your vehicle, nothing will happen with your hybrid vehicle. But what is maintenance people just saying, once you maintain. But what is proper maintenance? [00:38:14] Speaker B: Well, one person is saying, my cousin has a hybrid six years now and no issues. She gets it service each cycle for around a thousand dollars. Another one says my brother had to buy a new battery within 18 months. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Look at that. [00:38:26] Speaker B: You know what? [00:38:27] Speaker A: So everybody experience differently. And we're not talking about brands, but it have particular ones that might be better than others per se. But remember, we're not talking about brands. We don't want any company car company to feel any type of way. So we will mention anything. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Just dealing with the hybrid vehicle. Yeah, One texter sent me an image of an ad on the highway right about now. 10 years or 1 million km warranty on lithium battery. [00:38:57] Speaker A: 10 years. [00:38:58] Speaker B: It's a big ad I'm seeing. Okay, they said, they said 10 years or 1 million kilometers. There's a big picture of an ad. If you're driving on the highway, one company is guaranteeing you that. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Well, that's awesome to hear, but okay. [00:39:12] Speaker B: All right. Another one says here, oh, gosh, I running out of time, you know, am I bordering for five minutes after? [00:39:19] Speaker A: Sure, sure. [00:39:20] Speaker B: All right. So we'll keep him for five minutes after the newscast, very quickly, he has a little time and we'll keep him for a Little five minutes after the news and we will talk a little more and get some more insight before we wrap up here on this morning rumble with this aspect of hybrid vehicles. We take a break. [00:39:35] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5. [00:39:42] Speaker B: We are still chatting very, very briefly with Mr. Antonio Prescott, lecturer at CTS College and Car sales trainer. We're talking about the, the do's and don'ts in new car care. So Mr. Prescott, one of the questions some, one of our texters was asking this morning and we're giving you a chance to call us very quickly if you have a question. Hello, Good morning. [00:40:06] Speaker C: Daisy. I'm going to get with regard to the hybrid cars, I, I'm very suspicious of the hybrid cars because of the battery aspect of it. These, these batteries, whether it be in full electric or hybrid, they cost a lot, they weigh a lot. And to me it's inefficient and there's a push towards this battery, this battery, this electric car push. And to me it's a very, it's not an efficient one. It costs more to charge up these batteries depending on the cost of electricity. And you're, whatever region you're in. And you know, to me, and I've always said on this program, by the time that electric car reach the consumer, 7,000 slaves were involved in the reaping of cobalt in the Congo and various various regions in of the world to provide that cobalt for your, for your electric car. If you want to support slavery. In my opinion. [00:41:10] Speaker B: We'Re talking hybrid this morning, not electrics. All right. So, 625-2257 and 627-3223. If I have a question very quickly. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. Yes, good morning. [00:41:20] Speaker C: I'm now joining the program. I did not know you had an interview going. But if we want to talk about the future, we want to talk about hybrid, we want to talk about electric, we want to talk about flying because that is the future. Those who want to remain wedded to the combustion engine, well, they have a long thing coming. If you listen to Europe today and the type of heat that is going on into Europe and all over the world, different type of heat taking place. It is because of the combustion engine and several other areas in which man uses the environment that causes this. We have to move away from those, those fossil fuels and we have to move on to something that is less intrusive where the environment is concerned. So I would support hybrid electric and flying cars because I know that those are the future. Thank you, David. [00:42:13] Speaker B: All right, thank you very much. One texter is asking. Good morning. What will it cost for complete service parts and labor? If you can provide an average. But before you answer that question, let's take this call quickly. [00:42:23] Speaker C: Hello, Eric. Because of hybrid. Because your monitors. What about the poor man? The poor man has to do ordinary gasoline engines and all typed boy, look now. All right, we don't need that. [00:42:36] Speaker B: All right. Somebody is saying fluid should be changed just as the coolant every two to three years. Reason breaks is the hottest other systems a part of the engine and exhaust. You have to understand the frictional force between pads and rotor disc speed, mass and braking force. And this is a text from Pinal. So before you answer that, let me just clear this quickly. Good morning, Davy. [00:43:01] Speaker C: I have an optimal battery in my. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Regular car 15 years now. All right, so what's the average cost to service these hybrid on total parts labor in your best opinion? [00:43:13] Speaker A: Best opinion. It varies between the same price. 2000 to 2500 to service. And obviously different service centers will charge more because they would explain things more to you which more technical. Yeah, technical. And obviously with that more technical explaining they would say you need to spend this amount and that amount, but minimum $2,000. [00:43:39] Speaker B: All right. [00:43:40] Speaker C: Living. Morning. Okay, I just sent this message for you direct. That guy that's speaking about hybrid, I don't want to believe he's a professional. He don't even know the terms of the EGR valve. He given misinformation about driving long distance and short distance. Wow. [00:44:06] Speaker B: All right, so let me clear up that what is the. The he says misinformation? What, what is this long distance and short distance in terms of using these hybrids? [00:44:15] Speaker A: Yes. So what I was saying about the long distance and short distance is that it really serves more in terms of saving when it is that you are driving long distance compared to short distance. [00:44:27] Speaker B: So is there a certain time when the car is moving it will cut off from gas and go to hybrid? [00:44:31] Speaker A: A certain time. But I wouldn't be. [00:44:33] Speaker B: We can't say exactly what point. [00:44:34] Speaker A: Correct. [00:44:35] Speaker B: But if you're driving from one state and you're just driving on a long highway going, going at. At some point it's going to switch to electric mode. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Correct? Yeah. And you would be saving more in terms of driving. [00:44:46] Speaker B: So that's what it was meant to do. But me running from Arima to port, I speed in traffic every minute at a start at a drive traffic light here, that is what is is going to continue to cost me. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Correct. So the guy would mention about the EGR and I did explain what is the egregious. The EGR is basically the exhaust generating the engine. No, the exhaust generating recirculation. Right, basically. [00:45:20] Speaker B: So is that like what we just call a sensor unit? It's a valve unit. Not a sensor? [00:45:25] Speaker A: No, not a sensor. [00:45:27] Speaker B: All right, so as we conclude, somebody now saying hybrid. Nothing now, boy, I'm not going to that. Good morning, Davy and your guest. I'm not seeing much benefits of using hybrids at this point, point in time. I believe I will stick to the use of CNG system. So in your respected opinion, if you have to make a consensus in terms of telling advising citizens as to whether or not to use hybrid as opposed to conventional fossil fuel engines, what would your recommendation be and why? [00:45:52] Speaker A: Okay, so right now with hybrid vehicles, people will say all kind of different things, but who feeling it the most? The poor man who would purchase a hybrid vehicle thinking that he gets a new vehicle and it will last a certain amount of time and may not have the necessary finances. Persons who have the finances, it wouldn't be a problem to them. But I would say that right now in Trinidad, we do not have so many specialized hybrid technicians who could be able to fix these vehicles. So we can't just try to force it onto consumers just like that. We still in that gasoline stage of people purchasing gasoline vehicles. So it needs to be a transition, but a transition in a slow time frame, not something that just rapid. And all of a sudden all these car dealers are just bringing in hybrid vehicles and they are saying that they are professionals and so forth and they could fix this and fix that. But we are seeing problems and we are hearing consumers who experiencing difficulties and we are hearing persons who may be not wanting to purchase a hybrid vehicle because they heard from persons who own it what sort of difficulties that they gain. So who is always right? The consumer. And I know that in sales that at the end of the day you have to listen to your consumer. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Good morning. [00:47:13] Speaker C: Good morning, Devi. [00:47:14] Speaker B: Morning, my dear. [00:47:15] Speaker C: Good morning, sir. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Good morning. [00:47:17] Speaker C: We have a app, I just want to divert a little bit. We have a Nissan Match. Okay. The new ones on them. And what happened when we, when we bought it, they said it only have to use premium. You cannot use, you cannot use Super. So is it. And you know, premium, that's done faster and it's a little too expensive. So could we use Super a little advice please? [00:47:44] Speaker B: Thank you. Okay, well, we're not talking hybrid, but if you could answer, that'd be fine. [00:47:48] Speaker A: If you could, okay, no problem. So in terms of premium, it's a gas that tends to burn pretty fast, but it's a gas that do not have much impurities. It's very clean. So when it is that you switch from super to premium just like that, you would actually see a better performance in your vehicle instantly. But if you are utilizing super, you need to be basically be cleaning your injectors regularly and putting treatment in your gas ilene itself tank. So it's according to what your pocket could really measure. But I would say the best solution to do is mix it. If you could put in let's say $40 premium and the next time you're putting a full tank of super and that way you will mix it and you would realize that the vehicle will tend to move a little better than usual and just focusing on just only super and that's a factor. [00:48:45] Speaker B: And the thing with premium, it, it evaporates when you park up. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Correct. [00:48:49] Speaker B: It's a lighter gas and it does evaporate. So you find your fully attack the needle hitting the F. But you park up the vehicle, you come back in your study car after holding any hot sun, you went to work, you come back downstairs, you realize, wait, no, the needle shift a little bit, you. Very, very quickly caller. Very quickly. [00:49:04] Speaker C: I don't know which one was. [00:49:06] Speaker B: Oh God, pal. We want to thank you very much, Mr. Prescott for passing through and sharing some insight. This information no doubt was very valid. Most of the whatsappers thoroughly appreciate the information you shared, not to mention the questions we got from our callers. We want to thank you guys for really chiming in and asking these important questions. But when it comes to super and premium, premium is a lighter gas. It does evaporate faster. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:49:30] Speaker B: So you park up your vehicle and the gas evaporate, especially with the heat. It wouldn't do. So if you, if you have a cool day and it's raining a lot, you wouldn't get that evaporation. But on a hot day and you park up your car, your gas is going to evaporate. However, you get a better performance, it, it accelerates faster, it, it moves correct. With the premium as opposed to the 30 to super. And if you're a car enthusiast and you're in tune with your car, you would recognize and feel the difference. So I say thank you to you, Mr. Prescott for staying the little extra time and for sharing some insight. 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