SPOTLIGHT ON YOUTH BASED PROGRAMME

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. [00:00:04] Speaker B: The all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5. He understands it. So I say good morning to my good. Well, he's a good friend of mine. I've been a million years now. Hans, welcome to Freedom. You could come a little bit more, you know, and get behind the desk. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:19] Speaker B: You comfortable? [00:00:21] Speaker A: Thank you very much, Davey, for welcoming me. Good morning to each and every one of you. Locked on to Freedom 106.5 FM. It's the morning rumble and today we're gonna have a discussion. Devi and myself. Devi, you as you know the conversation. [00:00:39] Speaker B: My whole thing about it is I want to say congratulations first and foremost to you for winning the spot to hold down such a big seat. Because this is the seat that the former Prime Minister held for many, many, many years. And I often wonder, you know, if somebody has to take that seat, who that person will be and how they would fare. I don't. I mean, use a bold. Felaino, you have always been that type from ever since I known you. So coming out of this journey, you are not the first media personnel to delve into the realm of politics. We would have had persons such as Ian Allen, even JW would have delved into it in the last political elections. Now, Hans Devines is there. You know, let's talk about your journeying, entering politics, coming out of the radio broadcasting field. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Okay, so life is about time and timing and the time when you find purpose in your pursuit. You know, you really make different decisions. So for me there's a. It's a matter of when I step forward in this point in time. What are we stepping forward for? We're stepping forward to assume responsibility for what happens next in terms of our country. What does that look like? What does that mean? It means, one, we have to look out for those that have set the tone and who have put us in a position where, you know, they can know that they taught us everything that we need to know to take care of the society, right? So we do it for the mature ones, the elders, etc. But we also do it for those that are coming up to nurture, to inspire, to give information to the next generation that is coming up so that they have good role models and they can look at those that have gone before them, much like we are doing now, and say, yes, this is the way I can function and this is the way I can represent in a positive way. For me, when we look at entertainment and media, at the core of it, it is service. It's service to our audiences in many different ways. It requires discipline, dedication, commitment and consistency. And those are the things that I intend to bring to this role. And it's that feedback loop as well. We listen to our constituents, we understand their needs, and then we figure out ways to make things better. A lot of work has been done over the years, but how do we continue building on what has been done? A society's needs will always increase over time. That is human nature. And in an ever changing world, with technology and just needs all around us, we definitely have to just continue building on what is there already. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Interesting. And I love that response because again, Dr. Keith Rowley would have done well in Diego Martin West. You would have handled the community. And now you have to now step into that, into that frame. You know, I, I heard you a few moments ago on CNC3 and you talked about the passion you have for. Is it coveen. Well, the basketball court. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Well, it's interesting. So for me, I have a passion for all of Diego Martin West. I'll explain to you why. So there's something called Learn, earn, return. You learn at one point in time in your life and after you learn the lessons to earn, you earn. And after you earn, you return and you give back. So I went to Diego Martin Secondary School. I was born in La Perta. And when you look at the constituents of Diego Martin west, these are the people that I would have learned from in the early stages of my life, Whether it be teachers, my swim instructor, rugby coach, even colleagues in terms of secondary school. Right. These are my associates. These are the people that I went to church with. These are the people that I spent time with and played sports with. And that's from the learn phase of my life, the earn phase of my life. I mean, when you look at Tigo Martin West, Tigo Martin west is technically the party capital. I mean, yes, Port of Spain. Yes, yes. We have the Queens Park, Savannah and Carnival happening in Port of Spain in a big way. But when you look at the Northwestern peninsula, when you look at Diego Martin west, you know that that's where a lot of activities happen. And again, an area that I was able to earn in this phase of my life is the return phase. I am returning in a way where I'm saying, I want to represent you and I want to serve you. A lot of people look at it as power. This is not power. This is service more than anything. This is service and representation. This is about the people more than anything. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Now, when it comes to you being a media personnel, you know this new politics that everybody is asking for. You have been doing some walk around, some walk about in the community. What is the community screaming for right now? And let me just shift here briefly because I'm watching right, right in front of that now, the camera right there. You're good. So what are some of the, the things that the constituents are now coming to your hands for? What are they asking? What are they saying? Are the youth interested? What is happening? [00:06:33] Speaker A: All right, so on this journey, I noticed people need two things more than anything, information and inspiration. Information in terms of what is available. Because so many things that people are clamoring for and asking for already in play. So, for example, when you, when you, when you listen to some of the young people and they talk about opportunities in terms of training, in terms of job, if you take a look at the Ministry of Youth Development and National Services page, you'll see all of these programs available, whether it's in agriculture, whether it's in technology, even in influenza marketing. There's so many different avenues and different programs happening in terms of the Ministry of Youth Development and national service. When you talk about water, and yes, we know water is a concern for a lot of people in Trinidad and Tobago, it continues. But when you look at the fact that 200 community water improvement programs, solutions have been executed over the past five years, a lot of people have had improvements in terms of their water supply. When you look at Ramgooli trace in Arangua St. Joseph, their situation is they did not have water. They had a lot of water problems. And through the work of Minister Marvin Gonzalez, when he was the Minister of Public Utilities on wasa, they were able to help there get water. When you look at what's happening in terms of hospitals and health care, the amount of hospitals that have been built over the past five to 10 years, I mean, and you look at somewhere like Roxboro in Tobago, a place that a lot of people would consider very remote, and you see a hospital there where, you know, a lot of people are going there for service. Even people who may not be in the area may not live in that area because they're saying, okay, well, there are less people there. So, you know, certain things I would, I could go there for and it could be a little more convenient in different ways, again, different needs. Right. When you look at, even in terms of oncology and cancer treatment and care, what is being done in terms of the St. James Health Facility, and, you know, you look at all of these things that have happened and continue to happen, and you Hear what people are saying and then you start to understand, you know, they just don't know. Sometimes people just don't know. [00:09:00] Speaker B: But then how do you get the youth to be interested in that? Because many of the youth will tell you, I mean when you look at the age bracket, the, the new voters in terms of the 18 year olds. [00:09:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:08] Speaker B: That are coming into the, into your constituency in Diego Martin, where's the new registered ones? The, the ones that have never voted before, the ones that just watch the politics and they, I mean you're talking about the oncology and you're talking about the cancer and the hospitals and these things. But how is the youth when it comes to the, to those 18, 19 year olds. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:24] Speaker B: And you want them, you say hey, vote, it makes a difference. How do you attract them? [00:09:28] Speaker A: Right. Good. And that's the next part of it is the inspiration is the inspiration people need to see or want to see rather an example of what they see as their possibility for their life in politics. Now there have been great examples over the years. When you look at the honorable Shampoo Kocho Lewis and some of the other so called, what some would call young people on the slate of 41, when you look at someone like Sara Nanku, when you look at someone like Kari Marcel, how could you not be inspired? Look at Karim Marcel's story, look at Lisa Atwater in Moruga Tableland. When you look at Christian Birchwood who was a teacher, went on to be an engineer. They are inspirational stories. Even the honorable Marvin Gonzalez, who police officer, lawyer, minister, when you look at that growth trajectory, you see inspiration. But sometimes people don't learn or know the story of these individuals. I want to be that inspiration as well. Tell you why going to Diego Martin Central Secondary School someone would not expect that someone that went to the good Martin Central Secondary School would be represent their representative in parliament. And what this journey does, it gives inspiration to any child that goes that is going a government school right now to know that you can be whatever you want to be out here. You just have to work out and push forward. So again, after the Gomartin Central Secondary I would have pursued cat, got the qualification in accounting ACCA and I use that as an example. That was happening while my media career was going on. A lot of people didn't know about that, but that was happening while my media career was going on. And when I was finishing acca, the last four papers I did, I did together. So while I was doing those papers, people would say when a student, a fellow student walked up to me and said, listen, I don't think that makes sense because there's too many papers and it's too much work. And to work while you're studying and listen, it took a lot of sacrifice and discipline. Yeah. So the sacrifice. I could tell you all about a sacrifice in terms of me studying. About a month before the exam, what I would do is I would stay in a, in a studio apartment by myself. No furniture, no tv, just basic to study. And I would study during the day. I would go to the library, do well, I'd go to radio. In the morning, I'll do two exams. I would do. When I say two exams, you. And when you're, when you're in pursuit of studies, what happens is obviously they have exams from previous years. You do it, you do exams, but you do it in a. People who practice exams, but they fool themselves, Right. So they do the practice exam and they say, yes, that's what I was thinking. No, I would do exam. I would do it in exam format. So I would take three hours, three hours for the exam. I'll take three hours, do the exam and exam format, take 15 to 20 minutes to check over the paper, go to lunch, come back and do another paper and then in the evening go home into the studio apartment, study a little bit, sleep. And that was my life. And that was sacrifice. And in between that. Yes, I was working on radio at the point in time. So is that sacrifice and commitment and dedication? If you put in sacrifice, commitment and dedication, you can be anything that you want to be. Is that inspiration? Yes. I went on to get my mba. I went on to serve on government boards and different committees. But again, Davey, it is that. It is, it is that inspiration that the people need. They need to see themselves and their representatives more and more each and every day. We often have this facade that our politicians, it's almost like in people's minds, it's almost like they come from space. But for me, being from Diego Martin west and asking the people of Diego Martin west to vote for me, I feel as though it's like asking my next door neighbor or my mother's friend. [00:13:52] Speaker B: To vote for me. [00:13:54] Speaker A: Because that's what it is. When I walk through the constituency, these. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Are people I know and listen, hands, you're believable. I'm being honest with you. You call some names there. And I Remember back in 20, 2015, I think it was when I said I saw the state and I saw the honorable Shamfa Kojo and I saw these new faces, I thought to myself, you know, you are coming into politics. You are entering with a great mindset. But then you, you, you, you, you, you go up against these tall watts, those who are there with a policy and a system in place, right? And then you're faced with them now. And you might want to do something different. But I'm telling you, hands here. What? Hold your hand. Hold your hand. No pun intended, but hold your hand. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Breads. [00:14:33] Speaker B: We had to go down this road here. Relax yourself. And because you want to be into the game, you want to be part of it, you're learning as you go along. How are you going to ensure that the youth that wants to enter that you make that difference? Because when you're going up against these, when you're in there with these learned political luminaries who have been doing it for a while, they can pull the brakes until you're easy. I'll give you a minute to respond as I take this quick commercial break. Meditate on it. [00:14:57] Speaker A: It's just a quick break. All right. You have to take a break. You can take it. [00:15:02] Speaker B: We'll be back right after this. Stick and stay. Power up your Saturdays with Carrie V's. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Electrifying energy on Speak youk Mind Saturdays. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Here you're not just tuning in. You're transforming the show into a vibrant. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Tapestry of opinions, laughter and spirited debates. Get set for a day packed with the fun, the burning issues and Carrie V's infectious personality. Join the fun, fuel the conversation. Speak your find Saturdays with Carrie V. [00:15:31] Speaker B: On Freedom 106.5 FM. 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[00:16:40] Speaker B: By the more tree them selling fruit. [00:16:41] Speaker A: So look, just call O.P. yeah, go buy O.P. allen. They provide you with quality, professional and affordable service. [00:16:48] Speaker B: You hear? [00:16:49] Speaker A: Why telling you call OP and stop your foolishness for me, please. Them mortuary attendants just be getting big money to send you by them Rundown Place. Call OP Allen at 638-7700 or 313-7700. And remember, not just any Allen. OP Allen, engage with Davey on the. [00:17:12] Speaker B: All new Talk Radio Freedom 6.5. Once again, Trinidad and Tobago, welcome back to the Morning Rumble. Here Davy Murray is my name. I'm sitting down with Hans Dev, fellow broadcaster, media personnel as well. 25 minutes on the upswing at 8 o'clock we asked him the question how was he, how is he going to maintain a voice in the, in the party, in the political landscape, especially coming up against those who have been doing it for many years, accustomed with their, their rhetoric, accustomed with their narrative. And then Hans is coming now, young and vibrant. And that's how I felt with the Shamfa Kojo's, the doctor, Nayan Gatsby Daly and all these young ones. I felt I heard you, but I often wonder, and I can't help but wonder, and that's from the minds of the young ones as well, is it that when they get into politics, and I said it time and time again, I believe that when you all get in there, you are ready to hit the ground running, you are vibrant. But then you reach up against the wall of red now and they are looking at you and say welcome, but here's what's happening. And then you start to get the real story. Now you have two choices to make. Do I walk away from this because I realizing I can't get to do what I want to do because I'm now seeing the real thing, this is just me. In a hypothetical scenario, how do you plan to bridge, to break those barriers and continue to maintain a voice for the young people? [00:18:32] Speaker A: Well, it's interesting that you asked that question deviant and you use some of the examples you use. So for example, the honorable Shampoo Kojo Lewis, when you look at the work that she's done in terms of youth work and even community development, you would, if you take time to look and really observe at the work she's been doing, it's phenomenal. So for example, the Ministry of Sport and Community Development have something called the Pink Rain campaign where they take young ladies, teach them how to speak, how to do interviews, mostly young ladies who are involved in sport. Then you look at the Boss lady project where they take women who have Businesses and empower them, give them skills, etc. Then you look at something like Empower, where you have young men in a program. And these young men, when they come into the program, Davey, a lot of these young men who come into MPower, they are sometimes scared to talk. Sometimes they're dealing with different levels of trauma, Sometimes they are literacy problems. And a program like Empower, I've seen young men transform from not having an idea of what to do with their lives or how to move forward and turning into business owners with multiple businesses because of the training and that mentorship that a program like Empower does. Now, we may argue and we may talk about, all right, we don't know all of these initiatives that the government is doing, but sometimes if it, if you take, you know, and there's a responsibility that we as media personnel have to shoulder too. Right. So we see a lot of negative news. Any negative news gets a lot of attention. I'll tell you why. As well as human nature, focusing on the things that affect us negatively has protected us as a species for thousands of years. But now in our current timing, it's a different scenario where the skills needed for our survival and us prospering are different. So again, when you look at the programs that have that are in place, they are moving forward, they are focused. And when you look at Vision 2030, Vision 2030 is a people first approach. The most important part of Vision 2030 is People First. Everything we do is about the people. And you know, when. I know you probably didn't want to get as deep here. But. But I will tell you, it's in the name People's National Movement. That is what it is. It is about the people. And I could go more to tell you about the way the party is about people, but I know we have limited time and I could go on talking for a whole hour on. [00:21:15] Speaker B: You are a media personnel, you are a broadcaster, so I would imagine such. So let me ask you this next question. Time and time again we have MPs knocking on doors, touching our dogs, shaking our hands and hugging up our babies. Now, when they become ministers, do you think that the, the politic, the, the landscape should shift where. If you become an mp. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Which is a step above a council of an area. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker B: That you should not have a ministerial post. And if you do, how do you Hans Devine's plan to balance? Because very few ministers have done it where they were reachable post elections and they become ministers. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Now. [00:21:55] Speaker B: When you become a minister, you're responsible for an entire ministry that is that. That has to deal with the country of Tobago, then you have your constituents able just to take care of how do you plan to balance that? [00:22:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:04] Speaker B: And what recommendations you have for those that have not been able to do it? [00:22:08] Speaker A: I mean, let's, let's look at someone like Brian Manning. Brian Manning, who is a portfolio as Minister of Ministry. Ministry of Finance. Finance. Right. And Brian Manning continues to work the constituency of San Fernando east every weekend. And that's what I want to bring to it and take example from him whereby I take time after the election every week to be in the constituency with my constituents just doing the little extra. But again, it's taking example from one of my colleagues. Even looking at someone like Kennedy richards in point 14 and the way he approaches it, there are lessons to be learned from the people that are around me in that slate of 41 candidates. [00:23:04] Speaker B: I'm hearing what you're saying. I really hear what you're saying. And this is by no means an attack on you or anyone, but I have seen time and time again where the wider populace do not benefit from these things. In terms of, in terms of the ministers coming back and walking. There was an article in one of our Guardian newspaper recently where they were threatening if you do not. If we don't see you. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Now seeing me is what I see in you every day is one thing, you know. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:36] Speaker B: But what do you, what, what, what have, do you think has been done? What are you going to do? That's the next. You know, how are you going to bridge the gap between getting things done in Diego Martin west for the youth? How are you going to do that? If the, if the government of the day is saying we don't have money for this, we don't have money for that, how are you, Hans Devine's going to get it done. [00:23:52] Speaker A: That's a great question. I love the fact that you asked that because one of the things that I push is connections, connections, connections, meaning Tigo Martin west is ripe in terms of businesses and a thriving business community. [00:24:08] Speaker B: It is. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Right. And again, one of the pillars of Vision 2030 is sustainable businesses that could be ready for export, etc. Right. So we have this business community question is how do we get the business community to contribute to some of the things and some of the needs of the constituents. Give you an example of how we did that already. Docs Hardware, which is a hardware on Diggomartin West. Digo Martin Central Secondary School girls football team always makes it to the fine quite Often makes it to the finals of the north zone of the secondary school's football league. Tigo Martin Central Secondary School, my alma mater, they suffer with different problems. Simple things. Uniforms, balls, equipment. Those are the things that they need. If you take a hard way, like Docs Hardware, which I've done, you get Doc's hardware to sponsor the Diego Martin Secondary School Kills football team talks Hardware is empowered knowing that they're investing in the community. The girls of this football team that mainly live in Diego Martin west are empowered as well in knowing that they have support from within their community and within their constituency. The private public partnerships and the connections that I have obtained over the years are things that I intend to use to really push Diego Martin west forward and get things done. And again, it comes down to this. Devi. We have to be all in for Trinidad and Tobago to go where we want to go. We have to be all in for Trinidad and Tobago, as in all of us. Every part of my being has to be committed to this for us to continue to move forward. [00:25:58] Speaker B: When you were getting into politics, what were some of the things that you were paying attention to that you felt that you needed to come in and you would make that difference because you were leaving? It is quite a. Quite a daunting task to get in. I understand that the membership is a lot of bureaucracy to get a membership into the pnm, David. [00:26:22] Speaker A: No, it's not. You can go to Balizi House tomorrow. [00:26:24] Speaker B: And really, I spoke to a guy yesterday on the program right here on that chair. [00:26:28] Speaker A: And all you need to do is go. Go to Balizi House and you can sign up for your PNM Party card. [00:26:33] Speaker B: That's it today. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:34] Speaker B: All right, so there you have it. It's not too saturated, but we were told it's a little more cumbersome than that. [00:26:39] Speaker A: In terms of what? In terms of becoming a member of the party. [00:26:42] Speaker B: A member of the party. He did not elaborate. And I didn't go further on air, but it was a. It was questioned. Yeah, it was questioned. I didn't want to go. But at the end of the day, when it comes down to. To you and. And the things that you would have learned getting into the politics. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:56] Speaker B: What were some of those things that you learned that you felt that you needed to get involved as a youth to make that difference? [00:27:02] Speaker A: All right, so first and foremost, doctor, the honorable Keith Christopher Rowley continuously asked for step up. Also, we have to assume responsibility for where Trinidad and Tobago goes at some point in time, each and every one of us has to assume responsibility. This is about us honoring those that, as I said before, this is about us honoring those that have set the foundations that we stand on today. And it is on us continuing to build for those that are coming up that we have the responsibility to nurture and care for. It is about service to country. It is about the people of Trinidad and Tobago and how do we serve them the best. [00:27:44] Speaker B: But you didn't answer my question, sir. I ask you again. [00:27:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:48] Speaker B: What are some of those things that you think you could change or. [00:27:52] Speaker A: No, you asked me what you learned. Right. [00:27:55] Speaker B: So what are some of the things that you think you can change? [00:27:58] Speaker A: So in terms of change, again, one, when we talk about the connections that I mentioned before, that's something again, that I want to work heavily on. Two, again, we come in, I come in with, and not just me, we. When I say we, when you again, when I go back to Reena and Sarah and Karim and Christian and Lisa, we come in with a new level of energy and commitment. And even Prime Minister Stuart Young, we come in with a level of commitment and energy to Trinidad and Tobago. And regarding Trinidad and Tobago, that is what we in some ways are going. These are, these are the things we're going to add. I wouldn't say change because it's not that we're going to all out change things and flip over the board. Trinidad and Tobago is on a trajectory where there's a lot of positive things happening. The things that are considered issues, they're being worked on as we speak. And it's just continuing with that energy and innovation to resolve anything that is an issue or concern of the citizen of Trinidad and Tobago. [00:29:09] Speaker B: All right. And my final question to you this morning, I would allow at least two callers to get in. Let's talk a little bit quickly about the crime situation in the Diego Martin west constituency and the unemployment rate now with these youth, they continue to blame government. You mentioned a couple things, such as the, the empower and all these different programs done by the ministry to empower youths and to get them into businesses. You did see there was some success stories about some of these men, young men having multiple businesses. How do you plan to assist beyond those programs? Because not every youth is available for those things. They are. They are unaware of it. [00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:44] Speaker B: When you walk the roads in the constituency during this election campaign and post election, should you retain the seat, what are your plans to help these youths get jobs and come away from a life of crime? [00:29:58] Speaker A: Right. So it's funny that you should ask. Come away from a negative life. When in truth and in fact, there's so many positive things available for the young people of Trinidad and Tobago. [00:30:13] Speaker B: I think they don't know that. [00:30:14] Speaker A: And that is it. That is it. Like I said, a lot of the times, what people need is the information and the inspiration. That is what I want to bring when I go into the different communities within the constituency. The information and the inspiration and even along the way, continue to work with people who are somewhat mindset coaches and behavior change specialists to work within the constituency. These are things that are happening via different programs that the government already offers. How do we continue to expand on. That is where I come in. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Lovely. 625-2257 and 6273223. We have a couple minutes and if you have any questions for the Diego Martin west constituency candidate, Hans Deines, he's in studio with me this morning and we continue to talk. A lot of messages are coming in as it relates to this. This gentleman taking up the mantle and following on the heels. They wanted me to ask you this question this morning as it relates to the honorable Housing Minister Leonce. Yeah, but before we do that, let me get this call in. Hello. Good morning. [00:31:23] Speaker A: Morning, Mr. And morning again, David. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Morning. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Thank you. Mr. Hans, one thing struck me when you spoke and initially you said that your constituency is the party capital. Tell me something. Do you think that you have made maximum use of that Chagamus Peninsula? I think that we can build hotels, I think we can build many centers of entertainment and we can do things differently, creating marinas, more access to the point and everything else. So I wonder if you believe that those are things that you might be instrumental in getting done in your next term to come. Of course, I would have preferred you to be a full time member of parliament, but that's another story. [00:32:03] Speaker B: All right, thank you very much. [00:32:04] Speaker A: And again, Diego Martin west is ripe for tourism development. And if you listen to the honorable prime minister speak at the presentation of candidates, he actually did mention that there's an interest and, and a plan that he has to develop through entertainment different parts of Trinidad and Tobago and expand on that industry. He actually mentioned it. Not Sunday, not the last Sunday, Sunday before that, at the presentation of candidates. He did. He said it. He said it. And again, these are things that we can look at as a country of how we move forward. [00:32:48] Speaker B: All right, thank you. Hello, Good morning. [00:32:52] Speaker C: Do you really believe that interview is pertinent at this point in time? This is prime time, boy. Take some call. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Hello, good morning. 625-625-2257 and 6273223, if you want to get in. What kept the PNM from developed areas Only talk. Hello, Good morning. Hello, Hello, Are you there? All right, 625-2257. We taking your calls very quickly as we wind up to this hour here. Good morning. [00:33:27] Speaker A: So let me just deal with that comment. The. The question. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Well, pause now. We get a call. [00:33:33] Speaker A: Commit. [00:33:33] Speaker B: Let me see you get it now. Hello, Good morning. Hello. All right, go ahead and make your point. [00:33:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So, you know, the question is, what kept the PNM from developing areas? So we have to look at what. What are the facts? The facts are all over Trinidad and Tobago, there has been significant development. If you're coming on the highway heading towards Chaguanas, you already experience a difference in terms of the traffic congestion. If you're coming out of Diego Martin west, particularly further down the peninsula, you know that the roundabout has improved and the roadwork has improved. Your time taken in traffic, increasing the productivity of you as an individual. So again, things have been done. The development is there. When you talk about hospitals, the community centers, what has been done in terms of the community water improvement projects, it continues to happen. Yeah. There's development in so many areas, even in terms of sports and the facility. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Right. Good morning. [00:34:40] Speaker A: Morning. [00:34:40] Speaker C: Pleasant. Good morning. And to your guests, firstly, I didn't get his name, but I wish you. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Hands devines. [00:34:47] Speaker C: Mr. David, I wish you the best in the results of the election. I. So I expect that you would become a member of Parliament. But I listened to you, I listen to you wisely. And I heard you mention a couple things. One, you talk about Ministry of Public Utilities and water in Aram, where. But that falls into marginal seats. What about the risk of the country that has not been getting water? And they're complaining. They really know that. So that I want you to comment on. And the other thing is that Eric was raising the issue about representation. And I support separate persons as ministers and MPs. Would you therefore support reformation of the entire process? Would you support total reformation of the whole system whereby we can have ministers who are not MPs and MPs who are not ministers and give local government more opportunity and more power. I thank you. Enjoy. [00:35:57] Speaker B: All right. Thank you. That's the final question. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Right. So local government reform is something obviously that the people's national movement has been strong on. And local government reform does give more power to the corporations. And as you know, a lot of the things that people have as concerns, they are local government Issues was the next part of the question. There was something that. That he touched on the water in water. Right. Great. So let me tell you all what is in play. So people living in the Caucasus Point, Fortin, etc. They. There was a well built on that side of the country and some of those people weren't getting water every. They were getting water once every one, one day in every month. And then there were people that had. That had water problems for 20, 25 years, etc. As Minister of Public Utilities, Marvin Gonzalez and Wasa, they built that well down there, announced those people have 24,7 water. What is in train is our new Minister of Public Utilities, the honorable Column Inbert, Member of Parliament for Diego Martin Northeast. Different parts of the country. Think about the four corners of the country. And if we have wells in those four corners that then feed into our central water system, think of what that can do. [00:37:29] Speaker B: So those are the things that are in train. [00:37:31] Speaker A: That's in train. When I actually went to the ceremony for that community water improvement program, that's what was. [00:37:44] Speaker B: You were mesmerizing. [00:37:45] Speaker A: No, but, but this is it, right? [00:37:47] Speaker B: It's in the. [00:37:48] Speaker A: This is this. This is it. This is it. This is it. Davey. A lot of the times, the three minutes that is sent out or paid the most attention, that's not a salient point. And that's something that we need to be aware of sometimes we need to look at the whole picture. I give a. I'll give you a perfect example. Right. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah. We have limited time. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. You notice I watch my club. Yeah. When you look at the honorable Terrence D. Alsing. Right. Minister of Health, Minister D. Singh's most popular moment is him on stage dancing. And yes, Minister D Alsing is a fun person, a great man. Right. But when you look at the work he's done in terms of healthcare and his commitment to getting the job done, you notice that this man works very hard. And then again, Arangua St. Joseph, they know that you have a member of parliament that again shows up and is around. So the example's there and the work. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Is there for you all to follow. Well, Hans, I must say thank you very much. Don't be a stranger. As the political climate thickens in Trinidad and Tobago, we wish you all the best. The best insight, instant feedback, accountability, the all new Talk Radio Freedom 106.5.