[00:00:01] Speaker A: The best insight, instant feedback, accountability. The all new talk radio Freedom 106.5. Good morning, Walter. Good morning. Speaking early this morning.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: Indeed, indeed, indeed. And good morning to your listenership. Happy Wednesday.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Leave the picnic. Leave the picnic them alone.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Leave the picnic them alone. You dirty dirty man.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: You know Walter, a lot is happening in this space and I mean the show morning again to you all. I will get to the, to the WhatsApp in a bit but let's you know, we have limited time this morning for the NPTA speaks as we go in until 7 o' clock and then I'm not sure what time they're coming in. We'll figure that out. Okay, what is the NPT Thoughts? I mean another child gone.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Another young.
I mean while we mourn the death of 12 year old Mercedes. Mercedes, we have another young lady, a 10 year old girl, excelling well academically.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: Great.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: She has. She sat the C. SEC examinations.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Right. Good. Very good. Congratulations.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Last paper was yesterday or day before.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: Right, right, right.
[00:01:15] Speaker A: She's supposed to be doing sea. You know, she write in C. Sec 10 years. Well done.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Well, wow. Well done.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: You know, how can the NPTA partner with the wider population? What are the thoughts? How can you all get relevant stakeholders involved to save our children?
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Let me start by again publicly extending condolences to Mercedes Lanes, family, relatives, loved ones and of course her school community.
Because I'm sure the school is not going to be the same again with this loss and this tragic loss as well. Circumstances leading up to her eventual death still lingers then of course, and would linger for a long time in the minds of all of us who mourn her painful death.
It is our responsibility as a nation to protect and guard our nation's gems. We call them our gems, our children because indeed they are the future of Trinidad and Tobago. And if we are not particular enough, we are going to lose them one by one. So it calls upon again, as I've been calling before, for a whole of nation approach when it comes to seeing about the security, protection and the well being of our nation's children doing all in our powers to ensure that children could commute peacefully and without having to look over their shoulders thinking that something would go wrong with them today. So again it calls for that holistic approach, but all of nation approach to protecting our nations.
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Good morning again, Trinidad and Tobago. Welcome back to Freedom32 after the hour of six. Get up, rise and shine. The NPTA speaks very early this morning and I want to say good morning to friend out there in New Jersey, Inglewood, New Jersey. You and Raw are the two persons that seconds apart in sending your good morning greetings coming into Freedom this morning. Thank you so much for that. And the list continues with Raj coming in at 1201. What happens is a little scene that happens on the WhatsApp. Who gets in there first. But I want to say this to my whatsappers this morning after speaking with my producer last Evening and going through, you know, we have pro. We have decided that on a very. On one day the person that sends us that first greeting will be in for something for a nice surprise.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Okay, good.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: The person that comes in first, a
[00:06:26] Speaker B: surprise date, of course. Just be something.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: We're not going to tell you which day and what we're going to do.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: But something will be done on a day of our selecting before the end of this month or so. I'm not sure. But somebody's gonna get it because they wake up very early to tell us good morning.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Very good.
[00:06:40] Speaker A: You know, and we appreciate that. It doesn't go unnoticed.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: All right. So much so. Boy, you know, I was accused of being unintelligent because I say good morning to the callers.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Oh, how come? Unintelligent?
[00:06:50] Speaker A: Why the show is no longer intelligent because I run through a list of saying good morning for those that WhatsApp me very early. Anyway, as we get to the NPTA speaks, you know, Walter, outside of the frills and fauna of the convers, you know, when we started get deep rooted into saving our children as a community, as a people, you know, outside of just the pretty talk.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: What are we going to do to change the psyche and mental state of our communities in terms of how the framework, what sort of framework can the NPTA envelop now to assist communities with protecting young ones, especially when it comes to transportation.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: Right. Devi, you know the old saying, it takes a village to raise a child. We need to get back to that. How much I long for that community type orientation, that community type focus where everybody in the community looks out for each other. That is definitely what is in required. Especially when you look at rural areas like Bancho que mado palo seko, etc. Each, each parent is supposed to look out, each guardian, each community member should offer another so that they ensure that they are well protected.
Also parental supervision. This is critical, I think all parents, as opposed to not all material times where your child is, who your child is with what your child is doing, including online engagements as well. We have to make sure that we have that close knit arrangement with our children that at all material times we know exactly where they are, who their friends are, etc. Let me give you one example. When my daughters were in school, for example, and there was that issue about overnighting, for example, I made sure that the overnight at my place because I wanted to see who my daughter's friends are and who they were associating with. So that it is only by doing this, that you know, the kind of company that they keep and what their propensity is when you observe them and you are closely associated with them. So those are some of the examples of course, not to mention as well that the fact that you have to also make sure that your children are aware of their environment, of their community, of what is around them and that they understand what kind of conversations to be engaged in online as well as with people that they meet in the community. So it really calls for a sense of vigilant. And lastly, as I mentioned, vigilant. We need to have vigilant. Well, not vigilante groups, but groups in our community who would look out for our children at all times. Being able to keep an eye out for your children.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Plain devil's advocate. If every parent was to think like you and say my child sleepovers will happen at my place, then nobody will have a sleepover.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: So you stay in your house.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: Exactly. But of course, even though it's not in my place. But of course you know, who are the persons I involved in the sleepover, for example. So even though the person goes to next door neighbor or the other friend's classmate, you know, who are the persons involved there and the background, most importantly of the parents with whom your child is associating.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: Given, given the, the transportation system that exists. This child didn't disappear on a school day.
[00:09:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: From my understanding this child disappeared on Saturday and was found dead I think the next day or so. Yeah, what I'm thinking, I mean I didn't even realize somebody was missing.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it was social media.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I didn't know. Well, there's a lot of information coming in so I missed it until I ran until she was dead. And the founder until search and rescue. Gotta say good morning to these people. Both teams.
I'm advocating for one over the next. Both teams of Hunter search and rescue. You all do an awesome and amazing job and you go above and beyond. You all lend credibility, you know, sustainability to the police in terms of their. The undertaking of searching and finding for persons. Good job giving back to society. However, when we look at the transport situation in communities as the National Parent Teachers association, children would be going to lessons during. On a weekend, you know, if at all. How can we look at the ph system within communities such as rural areas like Lucy Row. Because let me be clear, the. The paid system doesn't just operate in rural communities. You know, you have places like, places like La Hokita,
[00:10:55] Speaker C: Malaba. Right.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Maloney, Bonaire.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Belmont.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Tinapuna El Dorado who have these PH systems in place where the regular taxis will cut off at a certain time. How can the NPTA engage with stakeholders to.
I don't want to use regularize because regularize is. We are taxi badge.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: What can we do?
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Well, a newer character. We are never going to be able to dispense with PH taxi drivers because the system does not have the facility or the capacity in order to be able to see about our commuters. And of course, there has to be some other mechanism put in place in order to ensure that people can commute and get to their homes or get from their homes on a timely basis as well. So we do need the PH taxi drivers, but there has to be some regularization, as it were. I mean, you know, the. With all the taxi badge even. But there needs to be some regularization of these PH drivers that you probably have them specially licensed, specially numbered so that people know that if your vehicle number is PEC1, that your badge number is 345 and your name is Walter Styoto, David Murray attached to that so that you can track and trace that person even if they commute with people within the community. Maribela Lauqueta Maloney, wherever.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: I mean, it sounds nice. And when we look at. Because this whole conversation is geared towards saving our children. On page seven this morning, the cabinet is now considering changes to curb PH taxi dependence. So they're looking now even the taxi service that. The taxis that we have now, there's no database to say, well, taxi so and so works this route and picks up this person.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: They go all over.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: They go. So I mean, it is. It's not a runaway horse.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:12:38] Speaker C: But.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: But there has to be. Well, of course. And I'm glad that you're seeing on your P7. I haven't read it as yet, but I will certainly read it during the course of the day. But there has to be some system that the government has to be able to regularize or to put in place so that we can monitor. You are correct. The taxi drivers, those who commute passengers from place to place so that unless and until we do that, we're in trouble. I mean, it's going to be risky business.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: I don't know, Walter. But this morning I'm not just playing devil's advocate, but my mind cannot wrap around a database that tells me, well, Walter left here this morning and he jumped in this taxi and we could verify that.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: It is going to be difficult. It's going to be difficult.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Thinking Good morning.
All right, 625-2257 and 6273223. The NPTA speaks. We're talking about saving the children and initiatives that we can roll out, especially when it comes to transportation and getting these young ones to and from school and even to lessons. Good morning.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: Good morning to the president and good morning to Davy. Morning, David. In Central District, the persons who work ph, I mean just call it that inside of Chinchin, going all up the way up Madras Road and all of those other areas, they have a taxi stand. And the taxi stand is what I would like to say is inside of the Qunuppe police station. Well, not really truly inside, but inside of it. Now what I really and truly believe is that the people who are involved in PH need to get progressive.
They need to say, listen, we have an association in this district and Everybody who works pH, we issue them with some kind of card that say, you're a member of our association or so. And what the sergeant, the district must do, he must allow someone, maybe a constable, so to sit with the association from time to time to find out what checks and balances they're putting into place.
And if the sergeant sees someone after a few months or so working PH and he's not a member of the association, charge him. That is my view, because they need to get their act together. We cannot have PH by sanctioned by government in any way because it's an illegal entity.
We go to parliament and we remove that clause. Because when you take an Uber in New York, it's virtually a ph. But I do not know what applies in New York as far as that is concerned because it is not a yellow cab, but they transport passengers and it works. So maybe you need to look at how they allow Uber to operate all over the world and we don't have PH with that type of legal status also. But the first step, as I believe associations in different district and issue them with a membership card. And if the sergeant sees somebody working PH and he doesn't have a card, charge it.
Thank you.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: Sounds good. But I mean, realistically, you know, they are going to be some challenges with regards to that. There's always going to be that guy who is not registered and will of course want to jump the line and of course get his passengers again.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: Hello, Good morning.
[00:15:40] Speaker C: Good morning.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Gentlemen, quickly, please.
[00:15:44] Speaker C: Come on. You didn't delivery that. I don't understand why. Why Batarians were.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: Good morning. Good morning. You know, I don't want. Yeah, because we have other calls and the president is speaking you know my brother.
[00:15:58] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: Let's get your point this morning.
[00:16:01] Speaker C: Good morning. I. I understand Eric's plight by asking that the police should charge him. But Derek, what they're already doing is illegal.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Anyway, he has the authority to charge that. You see, this thing escalated.
PH escalated because a former FIFA vice president became minister of wolfs and transport.
One of his mantra that he was before the election that he was going to make PH legitimate and got a whole heap of people to vote it to vote for them and their teen
[00:16:38] Speaker A: office realized is so unfair.
[00:16:42] Speaker C: If you want to say that that
[00:16:43] Speaker A: is a nonsensical statement you are making to blame. FIFA
[00:16:48] Speaker C: explored the PH. There was 100 PA drivers. It make 200. It increased it. So therefore the control of it became even harder to manage. And then with the state of the present economy.
So how do you regulate something of that nature? Because a man get up this morning and lost. He worked, work and decide I have a car that I pay for and the only alternative is to go and work that e. The Uber tried to come here in the government at that time, I think if, if I'm not wrong, wasn't able to to create that. That Uber because it's the same ph. Because your insurance, once your insurance know that you pick up a person on a higher job, your insurance does not cover that because you have a private to move around your personal. At that point where the insurance companies get on board.
Eric, that, I mean it sounds. But that didn't happen because the paper they're not doing something illegal.
So what we have to do is try and make these people legal, make acquiring your taxi badge a little more easier.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: But it's not difficult to acquire a taxi police record.
[00:18:04] Speaker C: If you have a bad police record, you're not going to get it. So if you ease that part of the thing up, it might help us a little easy. Enjoy your morning, gentlemen.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: But outside of having a CoC, not having a good CoC, you still can't get a good job.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Because our system talks rehabilitation, but we don't believe it. We don't support it. Good morning.
[00:18:25] Speaker C: Morning to you, David. Good morning to you, guest.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Good morning to you, sir.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: Right, listen, listen. And a lot of things, we always kind of denounce it. We need to put system in place. Yeah, Uber. Uber is really an app that drives the whole question of connectivity to riders and drivers and riders and the driver himself. And it's organized now. You look at the risk portfolio and if you see that in Uber being used that you have less risk or 1 out of 50 operational, what you call well people use it, then it's relatively safe because there will always be a risk factor. But we need to put systems in. Davy, our whole country is not in system. Not everybody could be what you call a taxi driver. That should be controlled. It should be an area where, listen, you have no more vacancy for tax drivers in certain routes. You need to have that organized. Unless we do that, then we will not have safe way for people to travel. In this country, nothing is systemized, if I could use that word in this country it's just less affair and that's the problem we are facing here. Good program.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: But even with the Uber system, Davy, and of course your caller, there has to be a cost factor as well to consider.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: You know, we're talking about saving the youth of our nation and I don't want to stray but transportation is a critical factor in assisting our nation's youth because not every parent has the ability to drop children to school. I dropped, I pick up my son yesterday and every day I pick up, I pick up my children from school most days when I'm available.
But when I'm doing this, I'm looking at how many hundreds of students, young ones.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: They had to walk, walking down, getting to transport, having to cross the roads, get to the priority bus route and all these things that play a major fact because as a small nation we have a huge populace of students going to and from school and not every parent have the ability to pay a driver to take their children to and from. Not every yellow bus is available to pick up all. And not every parent has the ability to drop and pick up. Yeah, because they have to go to work.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: They do have a vehicle.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: Public transport also would play a critical role public transport organizing a public transport system which is efficient and of course that you can count on. You can because I mean I I traveled one time to the UK and if they say that the bus according to the app is going to be there at 11:40, at 11:35, the bus is almost there waiting, you know, so there has to be a look at our public transport system again and see how best we can have it more efficient, more reliable and look and count on police transport system to commute.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: And that is a critical, critical arm of protecting our youth. Hello. Good morning.
Hello. Good morning.
All right, good morning people.
[00:21:19] Speaker C: And I guess morning. One of the critical thing for getting us CoC to most of our good record and to get us tax advisor must have CLC3 records. They're not going to get record so they're not going to get us because they can't get advice and immediately make it illegal. They go always have page on the road. And I see that trend happening out. I was a one parent. You see this showing off. They were giving the children expensive iPhone to go to school. There's a. No, no, that is not a phone to go to and from school. There are big people lost in their phone getting rubbish for iPhone running. And you give it a child that no, no, no. That ain't go work. That ain't go work. You're putting yourself, you're putting your child in jeopardy to get killed. Hold it down. My baby.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: The principal of the St. Joseph College echoes those sentiments. Why a parents giving children these expensive bag. There's a bag called the great gray. Which is the gray Hong some bag with a big mouth at the back.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Oh, right, I see those.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Those bags ranging at cheapest at 800 best to $1500. Yeah, the groundhog or Greek whatever the name of the bag is. My son said no, they want one rock your transport failure 300.
I mean you had to buy a good bag because bags bursting, you know, the box, the weight, you know, you want something sturdy. But to kept to give a child a phone iPhone to go to school with and all of that. I'm not even going to make a pronouncement on that because if as a parent you see the need to give your son or your daughter such an expensive piece of electronic equipment to go to school, that is you.
[00:22:55] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: I not fighting you on what type of cell phone you give your child. The law said die your money. I had nothing to do with me. That is up to you. Hello. Good morning. I interested in saving the youth this morning.
[00:23:05] Speaker C: Morning.
Morning to you and the guest.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: Morning. Spray ground.
[00:23:10] Speaker C: It had a shark mouth boy.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Right? Spray ground.
[00:23:13] Speaker C: I can't remember the name. And it's very expensive.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: Spray ground. Spray ground.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: But you know that PH thing is a whole different ball game because when you take out your insurance, it has handwriting. It is reach to the four. Yeah. Not for hire.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:30] Speaker C: You understand. So when people jump in a PA vehicle if, if they're in an accident, I have nothing to get to know nothing.
So the government got to do a whole different title and then the taxi association will kick against it because when you give them, let me say get them a.
A permit or whatever, remember they come and work together with the taxi. There's a whole big Baconal. Thank you.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: And here in this spray gun have a golden ticket.
Yeah. I mean I was in the school recently with my son and one student was crying. They reported that somebody tiff the thing in the bag or something was hanging out at the bag.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: And the principal was upset or something. Something.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: And it was like why you have this on your bag? What is this about? You know, this spray ground. Spray ground. And I'm looking at the bag with this big mouth and the jagged teeth and these children going after this. There's a thing, you know, it's a huge thing. Good morning.
[00:24:26] Speaker C: Yeah, morning baby. Now we gotta understand the board of transport for the young lady she wasn't going to school.
Grandfather living in a small community.
Five minutes ride with his granddaughter in a what he considered a so called physical called taxi.
Compared to children going.
We talk about trend going to school. You look at how children go to school in the US A bus depending on where you live pulls up in front of your house, our part of your community. You get on board on an afternoon. That bus normally drops you back directly where it picks you up.
If that child has to go anywhere else it becomes parents rule to provide that private mode of transport in Trinidad Tobago we have to jump in a taxi or a maxi taxi. So the government come out with maxi taxi and trying to make it safer.
And we have an issue because we want to keep the speed limit at 65km and we bought it up too slow. Davy drive a truck, a very old Toyota one similar to some of those 25 cedar maxi and at 2000 RPM I put in my fifth gear at 65 or 55 and you're going. If I put it at 65 because I run it hard at 55 km I put him up and my vehicle gradually increases its speed to 65. I don't reach 80.
Why? Because it is a charge after a certain rate your cargo has certain speed so there's a charge. So I don't want to know if the manufacturer will make the vehicle. And the man who come up with the.
The idea about the road speed is too mad, people.
So when we look at how children. Let's get from point A to point B. Oh, you're gonna solve that problem, David.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: You see, this is why we're talking this morning about saving our nation's youth.
[00:26:31] Speaker C: What are we going to do with when it comes to private small communities like that gentlemen and ph drivers.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: All right, thank you much.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: What are we supposed to do, David?
Nobody can tell me how are we Going to solve that problem. Because some of these people dies a livelihood. No. You know, I could go and rent to own a car and pull bull and pay for it.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: True.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Yeah, true.
[00:26:58] Speaker A: You see, one texter is saying what is. What is stopping the ph driver from getting an H badge and working taxi in the area? Simple. You must have a clean record as far as the law is concerned. So a CoC is necessary, which is known as a certificate of character.
You must apply, you must get a medical and then you do a little. Right. A little exam and you get your taxi badge. Once you've successful with that and it's a yearly renewal.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: It's difficult for some people to do that.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Some people remember, a lot of persons got their license through backdoor means.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah. As well.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: They never sat the exam.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. That's written exactly. And the literacy level as well.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: The literacy level prevents that.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So many factors there, you know, Many, many factors come into play.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: But as we deal with the. The whole Good morning, Davey and the PTA president is good. What about the. The. Those who commit crime and don't get caught?
[00:27:57] Speaker B: We have those.
Yeah.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: School graduation is coming. I keep on yanting a little after seven.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Okay.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: Because people want to get in and talk with us. Hello.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Good morning, Mr. Murray. Good morning to you and to your guest, the entire host and audience. My suggestion, especially with that situation that happened, I have a friend who is in her 50s, skeptical about traveling and what she will do before she boards a vehicle. She will take the number and call me. And sometimes she would actually call and leave the phone on.
So I was wondering why it is when this little child leaving from one area to the next, they could have just called the destination and say, she live in here now. She should be there in 20, 25 minutes.
Her phone is with her. Call her phone and let her keep the phone on in the car. So should anything start to happen contrary, they already have an idea of the number of the vehicle and they would be hearing that something is happening. We have these phones, we must make proper good use of them. And that is just my suggestions to use your cell phone to keep open contact and communication whilst in travel.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: That sounds ideal. That's the ideal. That's the ideal situation. But of course, I mean, especially if you're accustomed doing this and information that is about five minutes away. So that if granddad was accustomed doing this, it's hardly likely that on this particular occasion he will choose to go that way.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: What about the young lady who. And by her.
Her grandparents to sleep. Right. And she walked through.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: Exactly.
I think it's Mariah, I think her
[00:29:38] Speaker A: name to go to her. And never reached the.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Never did. Exactly. So she took no transport.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: She was just walking.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: And mere feet away from her house.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: It wasn't 200ft in her.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Yep, yep.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
So I mean we are not just discussing issue of mode of transportation, but we are talking about what we can do to save the youth.
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